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beeps-n-boops t1_iwem88d wrote

Neat idea, and I wish them well... but I really really really really really miss the North Star. Saw so many great shows there, and played there a bunch of times as well.

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tnymnt t1_iwf5pdc wrote

beeps and boops! caught your set once or twice over the years - legend

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MathisBrothers t1_iweyoyy wrote

At risk of sounding like a curmudgeon, what a tacky idea for a bar.

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thespiff t1_iwf5ov0 wrote

Yeah this article is where I realized I’m officially old.

Don’t wanna wish ill on this couple of bright eyed dreamers, but sure doesn’t feel like a young professional couple with dogs instead of kids kinda vibe in dog-walking distance of North Star. Also that place should be a concert venue.

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Geo_Music t1_iwh0x7i wrote

Maybe that's part of the plan? "Ruff and Roll" for the yacht rock crowd. "Poop-Step" for the electronica. This concept just amuses me because it's the last place I'd want to go.

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owenhinton98 t1_iwhpaby wrote

The electronica style you mentioned gave me a visual of what could potentially happen to me if I go there, and I went from neutral to leaning towards no on the idea

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Geo_Music t1_iwicli1 wrote

lol glad my random reddit comment proved useful to someone out there

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Karineh t1_iwgafup wrote

Way too much going on for a concept… a boutique, dog washing station and bar?

Not going to last

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hatramroany t1_iwjhn60 wrote

Those are just buzzwords. It’s just a dog friendly bar that serves food and will sell dog toys. It’s not a lot going on

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hedgebuster278 t1_iweu0tr wrote

And so the North Star bar went to the dogs. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I love my pups but damn. This kind of sucks. Thirty four years replaced by a dog bar. Maybe I’m old and the times have passed me by.

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Eastcoastconnie t1_iwfddl8 wrote

Nope, young person here and I hate it too. I think some wealthy millennials are just unbearably twee and think stuff like this is a good idea because no one’s ever told them no

edit: am millennial

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Brunch_Included t1_iwf9iow wrote

They seem like decent people, but this location could be (and deserves to be) the perfect neighborhood social gathering space, not a poorly considered novelty. I look forward to whoever renovates again after this concept fails. North Star is sorely missed and still has so much potential.

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fronkyponky t1_iwes07u wrote

God dammit can people just open normal bars and restaurants in this part of town? We just got a new vegan coffee shop that only provides oat milk as creamer.

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kittylover3210 t1_iwf0ihs wrote

oat milk is so good in coffee

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poopfeast t1_iwfaou4 wrote

Second only to actual milk

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kdeltar t1_iwgfue5 wrote

While I agree with the oat milk person, not even offering milk as a cafe is strange

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poopfeast t1_iwgloed wrote

It’s a vegan bakery, not really a vegan coffee shop - they just serve coffee. I love oat milk honestly but I do prefer actual milk in my coffee if I have the choice

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Sn4tch t1_iwgpz1x wrote

It’s also NOT a bakery. They get almost all of their baked goods from Kismet and Ursa. Not shit talking them, I dig their cosmic brownies but calling it a bakery makes me laugh a bit.

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poopfeast t1_iwhemxk wrote

Yeah I thought about adding that caveat too, didn’t want to sound like I was shitting on them because I am glad they’re there

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Sn4tch t1_iwhgxl5 wrote

had someone make the mistake of saying to myself and my wife they hate that they mark up the bread JUST because its vegan. And we were both like....uhhhhh a LOT of bread is already "vegan friendly" and I'm not even a vegan, I devour a good piece of red meat from Spot Burger often.

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watwatinjoemamasbutt t1_iwf1pkm wrote

Nowhere to walk your dog?! Fairmount park is 4 blocks from there.

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karensPA t1_iweydyi wrote

This is a horrible idea. Dog fights, dog poop, barking at all hours…neighbors are gonna love it.

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Geo_Music t1_iwgzhgk wrote

And entitled dog people congregating together.

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passing-stranger t1_iwf2x4a wrote

This sounds like the imaginary business coworkers would joke about opening while we dreamed of escaping our crap place of employment. Weird to see someone try to turn it into a viable business model but good luck I guess? I hope they have more experience with dogs than just the pandemic pup they recently adopted.

"Say it’s raining out. I still have to take him for a walk, and there’s not many parks available, and if there are, there are certain drawbacks to each of them, whether it’s they have trash or they’re dirty, and I got to give them a bath or whatever else."

So instead you...what, drive your dog to the dog bar to do his business? Lol

Eta: "Although toys will be sold, dogs cannot use them at the Boozy Mutt to minimize the risk of fights. Staff members, known as “rufferies,” will keep an eye on the proceedings. Dogs will be off-leash"

I don't know what these "rufferies" will be paid but I can already tell it's not enough

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Browncoat23 t1_iwgnypj wrote

Drunk people and off-leash dogs. Name a worse duo.

Personal injury lawyers should just camp outside and wait for the money to roll in.

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wheelfoot t1_iwggbc5 wrote

That sentence about rain and parks and baths really tells you who these people are. The park had trash in it so I have to give my dog a bath? Its raining so its hard to walk my dog? I don't think they even understand what responsibilities come with dog ownership.

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Sn4tch t1_iwgq2tv wrote

Lol my dog fucking loves the rain. Doodle owners man…

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GooFoYouPal t1_iwghuir wrote

It’s hard to do anything after a case of beer at the dog park.

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karensPA t1_iwezjv6 wrote

More money than sense, I guess.

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solushsi t1_iwgeo2o wrote

How so?

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a-german-muffin t1_iwh71rd wrote

It's an objectively terrible idea that'll fail... eh, probably within a year. As others have pointed out, there's no neighborhood draw — Lemon Hill and the weird triangle between Fairmount/Pennsylvania/Kelly are the neighborhood's two unofficial dog parks, and they're both less than five blocks from North Star.

It also doesn't have a built-in draw like, say, Le Cat Cafe — why the fuck would the average person want to go hang out at a bar with a bunch of potentially unruly dogs around, especially someone else's dogs?

And on top of everything else, this thing's gonna end up being a standing health code violation. I don't care what they end up working out with the city to open in the first place, there's no way they hold it up in the long term. Just way too many opportunities for failure left and right.

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H00die5zn t1_iwf0qtv wrote

Man, I love dogs but this is just disappointing

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poopfeast t1_iwfaju9 wrote

The only creatures that hate this idea more than I do are my dogs

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Eastcoastconnie t1_iwfctlt wrote

BAHAHA you have got to be kidding me… this reads like an onion article. Urinetown for dogs. They’re in for a ruff time.

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BottleTemple t1_iwg45ex wrote

So this is going to be yet another restaurant in the area with dogs in it? No thanks.

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porkchameleon t1_iwgrkl4 wrote

Good luck to them, but this is peak white people shit.

Like someone already said - this is an idea you throw around and throw away, not actually bring to life. Let's see if they last even 6 months (or even two).

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Sn4tch t1_iwfahpy wrote

They would have a designer dog.

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KenzoWap t1_iwgohx7 wrote

How do a pair of 30 year olds have the resources to pull this off? Kids these days, so rich.

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MathisBrothers t1_iwh09n3 wrote

Either they work in a high paying field, have rich parents, or both.

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H0tVinegar t1_iwfzdvv wrote

What are some of your favorite shows you attended at North Star?

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thespiff t1_iwg4owi wrote

Last show I saw there was Dick Dale. That was pretty cool.

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thepdogg t1_iwg6qdv wrote

Same. That was on my 21st birthday. He was amazing!

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ReginaldStarfire t1_iwgmpzd wrote

I saw Phoenix on their first North American tour. There were MAYBE 75 people there. It remains my greatest concert achievement.

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Sn4tch t1_iwgq98f wrote

I saw Tom Morello and Dustin Kensrue at North Star a while back. Also my buddy’s band Black Dirty. I miss that spot, I walk by it daily.

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dustycase2 t1_iwg4fcm wrote

Lame af. North Star deserved more.

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GooFoYouPal t1_iwga8e7 wrote

Do rich parents just give their kids money and not actually care what they do with it?

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SevenStrats t1_iwgg76k wrote

offleash + owners drinking not paying undivided attention = North Philly Dog Fights in seconds flat.

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Geo_Music t1_iwgztvb wrote

Yea offleash pitbulls that you see in the city mixing with little designer dogs sounds like a great mix

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missdeweydell t1_iwh8moy wrote

rich people are failing upwards and water is wet, news at 11.

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emk544 t1_iwgj16a wrote

In light of all the negative posts here, I will say that there is a Dog Bar in St. Pete Florida that actually does really well and has managed to keep things under control for many years. It sounds very similar to what they're describing, refs and all. Doesn't mean this will work, and this couple sounds a little annoying, but it's not some unprecedented rich millennial wet dream. This does exist elsewhere.

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ReginaldStarfire t1_iwgn586 wrote

I'm sure they saw the Bark Social people printing money and thought "We could do this, how hard could it be?" What's interesting is that Bark Social is opening a Manayunk location soon, so now there are going to be TWO dog bars in Philadelphia when there used to be none.

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bfmcgo2 t1_iwgoda7 wrote

This is correct and I expect this to be wildly successful. Additionally, I'd think this would be welcomed by the community as it's decidedly a bar for dogs, ergo less dogs at other bars/restaurants that allow them in the door.

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hatramroany t1_iwjld6k wrote

Yeah some of the comments in here are hilariously out of touch. Maybe it’ll fail but the “guaranteed it’ll fail in a year” comments are absurd

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BottleTemple t1_iwhbia5 wrote

I mean, I know it’s not the same exact thing, but Good Dog has been around for ages.

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trashpandarevolution t1_iwg3ob8 wrote

Honestly to all y’all complaining, if you wanted a music venue or North Star II, you coulda done it yourself. You didn’t, for a decade.

But thankfully somebody is making something out of an abandoned vacant building. And with the amount of dogs here, yeah it’s gonna do well. Sorry it’s not your shit or whatever

And honestly, I doubt you would have gone to grunge show here anyway. Sounds like you prefer bitching on the world wide web

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dustycase2 t1_iwg4l2c wrote

“If only you had a couple million dollars for your own bad business scheme!”

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missdeweydell t1_iwh8war wrote

the people with great ideas rarely have the benefit of unearned wealth to experiment with, like these dorks.

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thespiff t1_iwg5law wrote

You’re at least partially right. I have a dream of owning a bar/venue one day but it never occurred to me until now that this could have been the spot. And I just drove by it a week ago and noted it’s still closed. (I got detoured past it due to the trolley construction on Girard.)

Where you are wrong is that if it were an active music venue now, I would go to shows there. With that and Boot & Saddle gone, last small venue we’ve got seems to be Johnny Brenda’s. And first Unitarian I guess.

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BottleTemple t1_iwhcvxv wrote

And Solar Myth (which replaced Boot & Saddle), Kung Fu Necktie, Chris’ JazzCafe, South, Underground Arts, Union Transfer, Milkboy, Time, PhilaMOCA, etc.

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Fattom23 t1_iwi65j7 wrote

This is better than the building being vacant, but not as good as a rock and roll venue.

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ConfiaEnElProceso t1_iwixbep wrote

Gotta love Philly shitting on a good idea because of nostalgia and a hatred of yuppies with pets.

I am sorry they closed down the North Star. It sounds like a place i would have loved.

That said, a place i can have a drink and being my pup is a place I'll go. Especially in walking distance. In other cities these aren't "novelties" they have been around for years and have proven successful. Maybe it's not the perfect neighborhood for the concept but given the number of mutts i see out at Lemon Hill, the park on Pennsylvania, and Jefferson St. fields, I think there is a clientele.

I hope it works.

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Lt_Rooney t1_iwge7bm wrote

Cute idea. Not sure how it’ll pan out, but I wish them luck. That building has been sitting gutted for nearly a decade, good to see someone trying to put it to use.

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