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1Surlygirl t1_iyd2xwe wrote

If there was so much domestic disturbance in that house for so long and everyone in the neighborhood knew about it, why didn't anyone call the police or HHS? Why can we not find a way to help people that are clearly in distress without it always involving a police shooting? Why are restraining orders such a joke?

Abuse in our country can not be tolerated. People who abuse animals also abuse kids, women and the elderly. None of this is acceptable, yet we continue to accept it. Why?

We need massive reform in our law enforcement, more emphasis on mental health and protection of the vulnerable in our society. We need better interventions involving other organizations that promote awareness and effectively impede the negative behavior.

It often starts with animal abuse. This is a huge red flag, and it needs to be stopped as soon as it is discovered, not simply ignored because "it's just an animal". Massive penalties for animal abuse need to happen, abusers need to be removed from society for the safety of the rest of us. It can NOT BE TOLERATED. We need to nip this shit in the bud and excise this cancer from society.

People witnessing abuse need to be enabled to do more to help stop it. It has to stop.

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Aromat_Junkie t1_iyd7ems wrote

because after the 10th phone call and the cops not coming, because mind your own business, because the neighbor starts hammering on doors demanding to know who called the cops, because my life is exhausting and I have only so many things I can deal with. I dunno.

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1Surlygirl t1_iydbx35 wrote

I hear you. I'm just saying that we need new thinking about how to deal with this issue, for all of those reasons you mentioned.

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Aromat_Junkie t1_iydcbv1 wrote

I'm just saying, well look I wrote a comment a while ago but shit doesn't even phase me anymore. My first memorable experience in philly (playing a show on w passyunk i forget the name of the bar, JRs?) I got out of the gig van and some dude started screaming he was going to murder his wife for leaving the screen door open.

Or the time I saw an old school style italian beatdown. Two dudes just hammering a guy with a baseball bat right at 9th and Morris.

Or the knife fight outside Michaels Place, but both dudes were so drunk nobody even got hurt. looked like they were humping on the ground.

Or the time I saw an old lady get bricked by teenagers

Or the time I saw a serious road rage on the northeast and a dudes truck flipped

I dunno man it just never ends

you know... like I just can't it's not my fucking problem.

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OccasionallyImmortal t1_iydvwvd wrote

The biggest problem is that there's nothing that can be done legally until they break the law in a way that clearly puts someone at risk. If the police come to the door and they don't answer, we don't want the police to kick the door down because the neighbor's heard shouting. The idea that the city could have people involuntarily committed for "acting like jerks" is terrifying, and sadly that is perhaps the only way to modify behavior: by providing an environment that encourages good behavior. That doesn't exist in their home, in an institution, and certainly not in prison.

We called the police on our neighbors who had been outside screaming at each other for nearly an hour, and nearly as soon as they went indoors, we heard a loud boom that sounded a lot like a gun shot. The police arrived, knocked on the door, and when they didn't answer just drove away. Nothing had happened, fortunately.

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booourns82 t1_iyemhy8 wrote

I’ve called anonymously on neighbors for fighting with bats that was escalating and when I’ve needed cops for my own reasons, 911 and 311 ring off the hook. I’ve also called for an unhinged woman stealing a stroller outside of a wawa and a man trying to get it back in the middle of Frankford Ave. The 911 operator was extremely apathetic and rude, asking if I’d seen a baby or if it was just a stroller. Based on the guy going after it I’d guess baby but I don’t know, wtf…. They weren’t happy I wanted to stay anonymous and a police officer called my number later saying no one at wawa saw anything and trying to get my name and address. Nope.

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