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zoicyte t1_j8npulf wrote

Reply to comment by FMG1978 in Why Are Philly Brands Flocking to the Suburbs? by Proper-Code7794

Same reason the millennials are now flocking to the suburbs. They’re tired of being in a crime ridden city and now they’re all thinking about having kids, they need to get out.

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Mr_Fraunces t1_j8nsdqt wrote

>Same reason the millennials are now flocking to the suburbs

Because they don't want their children in Philadelphia Public Schools?

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zoicyte t1_j8o8nuc wrote

That’s a-bingo!

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frankdiddit t1_j8o9xqr wrote

That’s why my boomer parents moved out there. Things don’t change

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zoicyte t1_j8okl23 wrote

I mean I was saying this in 2012. Philly looked up and coming and very trendy then, especially neighborhoods like fish town and NL, but none of those young professionals were gonna plant real roots bc as soon as they start to want having kids they’d take one look at the school situation and fuck the hell off back to the suburbs.

That’s what me and my wife did at the time, and she lived there for like 10 years. I worked at the navy yard then, and would have loved to live in the city, but not with a kid going to school in 5 years

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Astrostuffman t1_j8pesf8 wrote

NL had already jumped the shark by 2012. Anyway, I digress. We moved out of NL, where we had tons of friends, in 2013 because it was unsafe. We looked at houses on the Main Line, but I grew up in Philly, so we moved to the “suburbs” without moving to the suburbs. Care to guess where?

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SeeMyThumb t1_j8ucqu8 wrote

I’m gonna guess that if you’re looking at buying in the main line, and Mt Airy is close, you wound up in Chestnut Hill.

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Mr_Fraunces t1_j8rpdbl wrote

Far Northeast. I grew up in a free standing house on 1/2 an acre with off street parking in the Far Northeast. I could walk to Bucks county or Montgomery County from my neighborhood.

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SammieCat50 t1_j8tu67o wrote

Got to say … my kids went to school in phila.. my youngest just graduated from univ of Penn - both have great jobs - nothing bad ever happened to them & they’re not on drugs..my relatives who moved out of city to utilize other school districts, their kids weren’t so lucky

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zoicyte t1_j8u4p05 wrote

That’s great. And I’m sure excellent students come from every district. But the overall quality and safety of the school system isn’t up for debate.

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benfranklinsmustache t1_j8nrq3l wrote

Also the older gen z crowd. They oldest are mid-to-late 20s now.

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marxistbot t1_j8ofmt6 wrote

Doubt. Average age of first child is like 28 now in the US. People are waiting way later if they’re having any at all. I’m cusp years (26-27) and my friends aren’t fleeing for kids. They’re just tired of dealing with city bullshit. Some do have dogs and having a yard is nice.

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BigDickolasNicholas t1_j8pm4if wrote

They're actually just tired of you

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marxistbot t1_j8srwgt wrote

I don’t live in the city. I don’t even live in PA anymore ya rizzless sagging nutsack.

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BigDickolasNicholas t1_j96vhc1 wrote

Look at that, suburban scumbags out here killing city cops. Please never move back

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marxistbot t1_j98i6gz wrote

Tf? You hit the blinkerton or you just literally insane with jealousy for the child free? It’s okay if you fuck up your life having a kid before you were financially ready but don’t make it my problem

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BigDickolasNicholas t1_j967i5n wrote

Of course you don't lmao. Every single one of you weirdos only flick here for negativity. Talking shit bc that's the only way to convince yourself that living in Bumfuck, USA isn't miserable.

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marxistbot t1_j98lxug wrote

I don’t live in “bumfuck.” I live in a suburb 10 minutes drive from a downtown east coast metro area with 1mill+ people. I’ve got city access but a big backyard away from the noise. I just couldn’t do sharing walls and city parking anymore. People acting like I fucked your mom and never called her back. I still love Philly, but cities aren’t for everyone at every time in life and kids aren’t the only one of those times. Public transit and traffic and noise is wearing after awhile, especially if you’ve got a dog or like gardening, which I do. Like die mad I guess ffs

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zoicyte t1_j8p35jr wrote

You can doubt but it doesn’t make it not so. Also why not both

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marxistbot t1_j8ssuis wrote

I really don’t understand why people are so mad about this. I didn’t say that no one is leaving cause the suburbs are better for kids. I just doubt that many Gen z are driving that trend given statistical reality that even the oldest zoomer is still well below the median age for first child. https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/health/2022/07/26/median-age-for-new-moms-rises-to-30-in-u-s-

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zoicyte t1_j8sykdk wrote

This is probably true. The oldest zoomers I know are 25. I didn’t have my kid until I was 33

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marxistbot t1_j8xj706 wrote

The cutoff is 1996 so the oldest are now 27. i have several 26-27 year old zoomer friends but otherwise same. My parents and most of their friends all had their first kids at 29-35. I know there are cultural difference driving this, but I just don’t know anyone personally under 28 intentionally trying to have kids right now lol

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zoicyte t1_j8zuu47 wrote

In the northeast US I would say yeah, most folks I know put off first kid till 28-32 but I know a couple of younger parents as I have a 7 year old and a few of her friends have parents in their late 20s or early 30s. But they’re also not as well off. There’s definitely still a socioeconomic aspect to it.

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marxistbot t1_j909jvt wrote

I live in south eastern city now and it’s the same. Definitely agree it’s income but also function of level of education (which is generally higher in cities than rural areas, and ofc they’re correlated anyway)

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