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GoRangers5 t1_j2bqz07 wrote

This is Brave New World shit, dope us the fuck up so we’re apathetic.

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SkankinHank t1_j2bur83 wrote

Lol, exactly what you would expect to hear from someone who has neither personally experienced nor researched the positive effects of psychedelic use. Sure, it's not a panacea, but it's a different ballgame entirely from opiates or even weed. I can't imagine a scenario where someone comes out the other side of a psychedelic experience more pathetic than when they went into it.

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GoRangers5 t1_j2bwzs9 wrote

Science doesn't care what you can imagine, people have fallen into permanent psychosis from psychedelic experiences.

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Amphiscian t1_j2c2yer wrote

Wait till this guy finds out what alcohol does to people

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GoRangers5 t1_j2c5b1u wrote

Nobody claims alcohol isn’t dangerous.

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MisterFatt t1_j2dhgc2 wrote

They’ve also fallen into psychosis from nothing at all

Now let’s list all of the statically negligible (and not) dangers of legal things like alcohol or sugar

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GoRangers5 t1_j2dmgtf wrote

Nobody is claiming alcohol and sugar are good for you.

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MisterFatt t1_j2e60xk wrote

No but you’re arguing that psychedelics should be illegal because they’re potentially not good for you (which is not really true anyway).

Just because you aren’t explicitly saying other things are good for you, doesn’t mean you’re not being totally inconsistent in your reasoning for why psychedelics should be illegal. Unless of course you think that everything that could have a potential harm should be illegal.

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GoRangers5 t1_j2e6hgy wrote

Where did I say they should not be legal? By all means they should, everyone has a right to bodily autonomy barring it doesn’t hurt anyone else. I am against saying they are magic beans with zero risk because that’s factually incorrect.

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Pristine-Confection3 t1_j2coj1d wrote

Oddly , Huxley the writer of “ Brave New Wold “ also wrote and entire book on the psychedelic mescaline . It isn’t even a good argument source

Also, psychedelics don’t do that at all. If anything they amplify emotions and you feel so much more . They are not comparable to opioids. Funny how you cite the works of a man who thought highly is psychedelics. You have clearly not done your research

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GoRangers5 t1_j2ctnrx wrote

He was an addict, it’s a warning, that’s what “soma” is in the book, man was so addicted to acid he asked for it on his deathbed.

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Pristine-Confection3 t1_j2cujsc wrote

The book was written before he took psychedelics. It wasn’t at all what soma was about . It doesn’t mean addiction to enjoy the last minutes of life on a substance and LSD isn’t really physically addictive. It can be psychologically but not physically.

You really won’t win an argument about this since I have done extensive research on psychedelics but you haven’t even tried them if you are comparing likely dissociative drugs in a book to LSD . It seemed more like big Pham drugs anyway .

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Die-Nacht t1_j2fq96k wrote

Pretty sure the "drugs" in Brave New World was a metaphor for modern comforts. We let our government get away with so much because, at the end of the day, we're pretty comfortable with all of our modern stuff.

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PhillyFreezer_ t1_j2c5e2i wrote

Oh yeah, a huge side effect of magic mushrooms is apathy. Totally true

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Unable-Ad3852 t1_j2c6vss wrote

Or a viking berserker. Imagine hopping at the wheel and thinking you're Maxx damage in Carmagedon.

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Hoser117 t1_j2ffa1e wrote

Ironically you'll find lots of people saying the government shut down psychedelics in the first place because they were terrified of the anti-establishment mode of thought it put so many people into.

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GoRangers5 t1_j2ffqt6 wrote

Haha, well those boomers are in charge now and I'm skeptical anyone does anything out of altruism.

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