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No_Tax5256 t1_j29zs5m wrote

They really need to extend this tax holiday. People are hurting with all the inflation, and economic problems.

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captainktainer t1_j2ar7b7 wrote

Then the government should send people a check or find more positive forms of stimulus, not further distort an already distorted market. Gasoline powered cars impose enormous negative externalities on the market, not least in the infrastructure required to support them. The gasoline tax recaptures a portion of the cost of those externalities and funds the infrastructure needed to support automobile travel.

The last thing we need to do is further incentivize driving.

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tomtazm t1_j2bcek8 wrote

So you want the goverment to increase inflation to solve the inflation problem?

Interesting.

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captainktainer t1_j2bj3dy wrote

>or find more positive forms of stimulus

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tomtazm t1_j2bnt7z wrote

What does that mean? Stimulus is what got us into this situation. It's not how we get out of it.

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Rottimer t1_j2cq1qj wrote

Raising taxes actually fights inflation. Putting in place a gas tax holiday does the opposite.

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getahaircut8 t1_j2bkxdf wrote

Whose gonna pay for the roads

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LMoE t1_j2a04hj wrote

That’s not how inflation works.

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picklefluffer t1_j2a3ez1 wrote

If wages went up with inflation then you’d be correct but my wages didn’t go up at the same rate as inflation in the past year and I bet most people will say the same

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evilgenius12358 t1_j2abmzl wrote

Find a new job that pays market rate for your skills and services.

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picklefluffer t1_j2acirg wrote

Lol that’s like saying “just don’t be poor”, it’s not exactly the easiest thing these days to find a high paying job and more importantly a stable job where you won’t face wage cuts or get laid off if the economy worsens

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evilgenius12358 t1_j2bic2i wrote

We are at the tail end of the "Great Resignation". People wirh marketable skills and experience are quitting jobs and moving to new jobs that pay more. Lots of people have taken advantage of the last two years to upskill and pivot from one career to another. There is no better time than now. Fortune favors the bold. Be bold. Take a risk. You may just find yourself in a better place.

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The_LSD_Soundsystem t1_j2binhb wrote

Lol finding a new job ain’t easy when people are getting laid off in many sectors.

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evilgenius12358 t1_j2bj1cj wrote

Unemployment is at a near all time low. Job creation has outpaced layoffs.

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AeneasSonofAnchises t1_j2ajp24 wrote

The gov should stop incentivizing people to drive. The tax should be 2x.

Also if you care about inflation you want people to spend less, so higher prices are good.

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jonnycash11 t1_j2bc4qa wrote

For some of us plebs with families to support, we need a car to get around because public transportation outside of Manhattan is shit and certain elected officials would rather convert former railway lines into… parks rather than repair them.

I have kids to take care of and can’t wait an extra 90 minutes both ways for shitty buses and trains.

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AeneasSonofAnchises t1_j2bd1x9 wrote

That’s fine if you want to drive.

But as someone who pays an obscene amount of taxes to this city, state, gov. I’m kinda tired of subsidizing car drivers choice to drive, while transit gets shafted.

If you want to drive that’s fine, but it’s the most expensive decision both financially and environmentally.

If driving gets expensive enough, you may start to petition for better public transit

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ParadoxScientist t1_j2boqj1 wrote

As a driver myself I'm always in favor of expanding transit and believe it is the ONLY option to reducing car dependency. However most people see the MTA's track record and have no hope, so they don't bother spreading awareness. And a lot of these people are transit users themselves, not drivers. "It would be nice but it's never gonna happen." A lot of these people don't even know about the The Triboro project, the Interborough Express, and the Queenslink.

If the city truly cared they would start expanding transit ASAP, but nope, they always have some political and financial problems. Meanwhile other developed cities around the world have robust, modern subway systems.

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AeneasSonofAnchises t1_j2cix3s wrote

Agree, I wish the MTA didn’t suck so hard. But would rather fix it then encourage more cars.

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InfernalTest t1_j2cejsl wrote

if youre getting "taxed an obscene amount "....... drivers are too

and i guarantee youre not paying anything close to what people pay in the outlaying counties pay in property taxes - the same people who are needed to come into the city to work and buy stuff here...

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AeneasSonofAnchises t1_j2cff9r wrote

And that’s why the LIRR was invented. You want to drive in LI fine, but you shouldnt have a right to drive your 2 ton box into the city for free.

Hell, I think the LIRR should be free and the queensboro should have a $100 toll to encourage it

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oreosfly t1_j2f70rn wrote

LIRR free? Hahahaha

LIRR, MNRR, and the express bus costing more than the subway is a big reason why are a billion times more pleasant to ride than the subway.

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TetraCubane t1_j2cn961 wrote

LIRR free? What the fuck, we don’t want homeless bums to invade that.

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InfernalTest t1_j2f44tf wrote

wait who are you to say what someone should have a "right" to do ???

and im pretty sure you make yourself availible to using a 2 ton box or benefit FROM those 2 ton boxes - LIRR isnt here to replace cars

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jonnycash11 t1_j2btbex wrote

What do you mean “subsidizing”? Are you sure you know what that word means?

I pay 30+ cents in state and local taxes a gallon. I’m sure some of that money is going towards the financially insoluble MTA.

Try getting off of Long Island without paying an exorbitant amount in tolls and fares. Most of that money is subsidizing other projects across the state.

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WWJewMediaConspiracy t1_j2b2a0r wrote

Nah breathing is overrated, having spring in January is amazing / climate change is a joke, and we just give people more money to fight inflation!

But really yes driving is far too cheap in NYC - higher gas taxes, congestion pricing, etc are all long overdue

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Dolphintorpedo t1_j2capez wrote

Charge them market rates

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WWJewMediaConspiracy t1_j2ekpfs wrote

Market rates for parking with demand based pricing would for real be one of the fastest, most drastic improvements to infrastructure the city could take.

It'd also probably cause the NYPost readership (amongst others) to convulse and fight as if it were a coming apocalypse / is politically impossible.

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jumbod666 t1_j2bi4ny wrote

Inflation comes from too much money chasing too few goods. Also comes from the government spending too much.

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lord-helmet t1_j2cr4ie wrote

So all our food will be delivered from the Midwest by bicycle?

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The_LSD_Soundsystem t1_j2biv10 wrote

What your describing is literally taxing people because they drive cars, which will tax many lower income people. That is a dumb argument.

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