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[deleted] t1_ivfesyp wrote

>Guallpa was sent to Rikers on Aug. 19 after being arrested and charged with 2nd degree strangulation in Queens County, according to the DOC.

So we as a society, think it makes sense to compensate the family of a man that strangled someone, and decided to kill himself?

Fuck that, hope they don't get a dollar. It was all his dumb ass decisions all the way to the end, nobody owes his family anything.

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functor7 t1_ivfgm2j wrote

>So we as a society, think it makes sense to compensate the family of a man that allegedly strangled someone, and decided to kill himself?

FTFY

Riker's Island is mostly full of people awaiting trial and, therefore, innocent in the eyes of the law. The state has a duty to ensure the safety of the people in its custody, including humane living conditions where their basic needs are met. Even with convicted criminals, cruelty is not the purpose of prison but rehabilitation under the guidelines of the conviction. The state has a duty to ensure that the basic rights of all - even convicted murderers on death row - are upheld. The state can only infringe on the inalienable rights that are specifically outlined by the judge for the criminal offense. Anything more is cruelty and a human rights violation.

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gwynnegr t1_ivff8x3 wrote

Do be fair, don't you think it's wrong that security is falsifying documents? Maybe you don't agree that this guy deserves to be paid out for - but this is very clearly a systematic issue and it should be punished.

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[deleted] t1_ivffn98 wrote

She should be punished, but the state should absolutely not pay for anything. We need to change the laws such that people committing suicide in prison is not the fault of the state but in fact a stupid decision that the person made to kill themselves.

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Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_ivfiqov wrote

> She should be punished, but the state should absolutely not pay for anything

She's an arm of the state. The state wronged him.

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utamog t1_ivfgrxn wrote

People have lost their minds. Common sense like this is in such demand these days.

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