TudeExtrude t1_iu0sd26 wrote on October 27, 2022 at 6:30 PM

Reply to comment by co_matic in New York’s Migrant Tent City Is Mostly Empty a Week After Opening by nexert233

Not often discussed is, why should we provide asylum to them? They came through Mexico and didn't apply there, thats a statute in the requirements for applying to asylum in the US.

Asylum is about getting to safety and getting away from a repressive government, since when has it been "go to the best possible country for your personal economic reasons"?

JRsshirt t1_iu2bow9 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 12:59 AM

Because asylum has long been misused as a lever for immigration. The whole system needs to be overhauled imo. It shouldn’t be so hard to move here legally that you have to claim you’re doing it for your own safety to get in.

tonka737 t1_iu4gug3 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 2:11 PM

Well it makes sense to manage who enters your borders. Limited state funds and filters who can enter the country.

givemegreencard t1_iu5elal wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:57 PM

> They came through Mexico and didn't apply there, thats a statute in the requirements for applying to asylum in the US.

No it is not.

The US only has a safe third country agreement with Canada.

Whatever your opinion on asylum law and whether or not it is abused, no applicant for asylum in the U.S. has a legal requirement to seek asylum in any intermediary country they passed through.

Whether these asylum applicants actually qualify based on a well-founded fear of persecution based on the protected classes is a different question.

PyramidClub t1_iu45u2w wrote on October 28, 2022 at 12:46 PM

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

damnatio_memoriae t1_iu6aet0 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 9:38 PM

Dave's not here, man.

dread_beard t1_iu5qjhb wrote on October 28, 2022 at 7:18 PM

What you say is fully accurate. I mean, read my comments and posts. I am very, very liberal. But there is zero reason for these migrants to not apply for asylum in Mexico. Period. This is not how the process is legally supposed to go.