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Due_Masterpiece_3601 OP t1_irymgo2 wrote

Reply to comment by fuckyouimin in I would like for us to discuss the future of this city by Due_Masterpiece_3601

I think Giuliani paved the way for some of the prosperity some folks have had in NY. Lets not forget that times Square was no man's land before he got there. I'm not saying everything he did was great, but I agreed with some of the changes he made.

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fuckyouimin t1_iryodtb wrote

I'm sure many people prospered... but at what price.

And sorry, but I'll take the hookers and fortunetellers and drug dealers and fake ID shops and mom and pop stores ("no man's land" as you called it) over the Disneyfied bullshit we have now.

If i wanted to live in Florida I would have moved there. This is NYC.

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Due_Masterpiece_3601 OP t1_iryop52 wrote

If this is about times Square, my opinion is who cares. It brings in tourism and made the streets safer. Nyers have other places to hang out in anyway.

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Isawthebeets t1_iryp0lv wrote

This idea that the city was the horrible murder capital until Giuliani became mayor is such a farce that Eric Adams wouldn't even be able to sell it as swag. Crime in the U.S cities had already been on a downward spiral before 1994.

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Due_Masterpiece_3601 OP t1_iryrzz7 wrote

The crime seemed to drop right at the same time as stop and frisk. I wouldn't say it was a murder capital, but changes needed to be made and the city flourished.

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Isawthebeets t1_irz1844 wrote

Giuliani became mayor in 1994. Crime "seemed" versus actual data might be a bit more accurate don't you think? I honestly can sit here for the next three hours to show the data.

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