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ShadownetZero t1_jb4euv5 wrote

Reply to comment by Jeff3412 in Exploding e-scooter battery sets off massive fire, 'extraordinary damage' in Bronx supermarket by OntheRunfromCIA

They're banning ebike batteries, not all batteries.

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mostly_a_lurker_here t1_jb5gbte wrote

Still, a blanket ban of all ebike batteries is very silly.

Fires are also caused by space heaters being connected to overloaded extension cords, imagine banning all space heaters for that reason.

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ShadownetZero t1_jb5id7n wrote

Unless there's an easy way to identify these batteries (or an enforced way to prevent them from being sold) - a blanket ban is the only way buildings can really handle this.

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mostly_a_lurker_here t1_jb5y35r wrote

That's not true, some buildings' management already handle this without a blanket ban. You can allow people to register their devices with the building, check for reputable brands and UL-listed components, and educate with rules and flyers throughout the building (that define where to charge, how to not use extension cords, be present while charging, etc).

I would also say that it's pretty easy to identify crapware from reliable batteries. Fly e-bikes, generic AliExpress stuff, cheap conversion kits, you can see those outright. Brands such as Lectric, Ride1up, Rad Power, are all solid. Scooters such as Razer or Ninebot, good. No-name scooters and hoverboards, bad.

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phoenixmatrix t1_jbb08aq wrote

How do you track who has registered them and who didn't in a building of hundreds of people with constant guests coming in and out?

Its like buildings that require pets to be registered. They kindda check when you move in (maybe), but after that its essentially free for all, since its impossible for the building to keep track.

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phoenixmatrix t1_jbb01bj wrote

>Still, a blanket ban of all ebike batteries is very silly.

Regardless of the reasoning behind the ban, enforcing nuance in apartment rules is basically impossible because of the burden of proof required. It kindda has to be all or nothing, else its nothing by default.

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Jeff3412 t1_jb83dpk wrote

Then it doesn't really make sense.

If lithium Ion batteries are dangerous then they're dangerous. They're still dangerous even when they're in things basically everyone uses.

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For example here's some stories from the last month of phones that exploded:

https://www.truescoopnews.com/newsdetail/phone-leads-to-death-68yearold-man-dies-after-his-phone-exploded-while-talking-to-a-friend

https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/green-township/watch-iphone-explodes-while-family-sleeps-we-were-extremely-lucky-to-avoid-a-house-fire

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/cellphone-explodes-in-his-pants-youth-falls-from-1st-floor-in-ahmedabad/articleshow/98193000.cms?from=mdr

The same dangerous battery tech is still dangerous when attached to smart phones.

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ShadownetZero t1_jb8nr4m wrote

Patently false. Have you not been paying attention?

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Jeff3412 t1_jbaf2n6 wrote

Here's some stories form the last month:

https://www.truescoopnews.com/newsdetail/phone-leads-to-death-68yearold-man-dies-after-his-phone-exploded-while-talking-to-a-friend

https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/green-township/watch-iphone-explodes-while-family-sleeps-we-were-extremely-lucky-to-avoid-a-house-fire

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/cellphone-explodes-in-his-pants-youth-falls-from-1st-floor-in-ahmedabad/articleshow/98193000.cms?from=mdr

The same dangerous battery tech is still dangerous when attached to smart phones.

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