iv2892 t1_j6tz2h3 wrote
Reply to comment by jakegh in New Yorkers witnessed more homelessness, encampments during Mayor Adams’ first year by Nscience
Why is the west coast so bad ? I went to SF in 2017 and at least at the time the homeless situation didn’t seem so bad back then
jakegh t1_j6u2hsh wrote
Don’t know about SF but I have family in Oregon and apparently the Portland government gave out free tents. Nice ones too. Also all drugs are legal including meth and heroin.
It’s been quite an experiment for them.
Ok_Yogurtcloset8915 t1_j6u9ux2 wrote
a lot of places essentially bus their homeless people to California, which means the west coast has been steadily taking in a higher and higher proportion of the chronically homeless as time goes on, and that group really frequently struggles w mental health and substance abuse issues.
SuperTeamRyan t1_j6uxwr5 wrote
This is the same case with NY on the east coast. We get homeless from PA, GA and oddly enough PR shipped to us.
kiwi3p t1_j6yq997 wrote
I'm from Seattle, and while I'm not an expert, I personally think it's because of lack of housing. Portland, Seattle, and LA don't really have public housing in a large capacity. SF has some really old public housing blocks, but they've also been lagging.
Seattle in particular tore down one of it's only public housing projects, Yesler Terrace, and planned to redevelop it. The redevelopment however is similar to what we do here, in that it's market rate housing with some low income properties. This does not make up for the low income housing they displaced. That paired with skyrocketing rents, it's a trickle down situation where people eventually get pushed out on to the street.
Once that happens, there's few opportunities to find a shelter. Seattle also lacks good city run shelters, so a lot of the burden is taken by Catholic shelters in Pioneer Square. Those buildings simply don't have the space, and are extremely restrictive. All of this compounds to a massive population that are basically working for minimum wage, but live on the streets or in tent cities.
Vancouver Canada's Downtown East side is essentially an exacerbated version of this, as the rent spike was quicker there and the salaries lower. It's always been a bad neighborhood, but has just kind of become a dumping ground that the city would like to ignore.
Every city on the west coast kind of follows this model. It all comes down to them not having the services that NYC and many east coast cities started adopting during the Jacob Riis era. Every city in the US is basically capable of having the problems west coast cities have, but haven't had to contend with them because there isn't enough demand to move to those cities.
Meowdl21 t1_j6u8z7e wrote
I was in LA in 2017 and downtown was like nothing id ever seen before. Apparently that has spread to other downtowns in cities throughout CA. Quite something
Longjumping_Vast_797 t1_j6woav4 wrote
I've got family in the bay area, one of whom is Bulgarian and came from poverty. He acts completely ashamed of the way the area is deteriorating. It had changed A LOT.
janandgeorgeglass t1_j6xuxjk wrote
It doesn't really get below freezing in a lot of west coast cities, which is pretty alluring if you sleep outside year round. Also as mentioned by another user, a lot of states have been caught sending their homeless to the west coast with a one way bus ticket.
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