Mitthrawnuruo t1_j9ubpb5 wrote
Reply to comment by pornosucht in A pregnant murder suspect should get out of jail because her fetus hasn't been charged with a crime and isn't getting proper medical care, court documents argue by jdb1984
The baby is confined in the mother until birth, so the mothers location is irrelevant.
Obviously the baby should receive proper medical care until birth.
And then be placed with a properly family who didn’t commit murder after birth.
KittenKoder t1_j9uotx7 wrote
Or we could just stop pretending a lump of cells is a human being and stop killing people out of revenge.
pornosucht t1_j9uv6ki wrote
Point 1: circumstances and experiences during pregnancy have an influence on the later development of the child, do it is not completely irrelevant. However, I agree that the baby cannot leave the mother until birth, so "imprisonment of the baby" is a very week argument.
Point 2: not only the baby, but the mother as well!
Point 3: the defendant claims, that she was attacked and defended herself and the baby with a single shot. There is no verdict in the case, yet, so far she is only indicted. That means she has to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
In other words: if she is convicted, then you are right. Until then, the child should stay with the mother, except if there is any indication for neglect or mistreatment. An alternative might be the father, but you should have very good arguments to separate mother and child, and for me, that means you should have very good arguments to keep the mother imprisoned until the process.
spiderat22 t1_j9vgs85 wrote
Jesus, your understanding of all things military industrial complex is coloring your ability to be a human. A mother's mental and emotional state impacts the baby growing inside of her immensely. Maybe step away from your military mindset for a bit and learn some empathy.
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