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Icewear_Daddy t1_j34cpqf wrote
What are the odds that they'll release him back to the cartel again?
"Ovidio was briefly detained in the northern state of Sinaloa in October 2019 by security forces, but then quickly released because of violent retribution from his cartel"
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Nihlus_Kriyk t1_j34e9t0 wrote
If its Marines or special forces. No chance.
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pokeybill t1_j34fwhg wrote
He was released in 2019 because police weren't expecting to catch him and didn't have backup to deal with the fallout.
This time it's the military and a larger operation - if they are smart he is far from Sinaloa at this point.
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pyrmale t1_j34mo88 wrote
Donny Trump said he's going down to Mexico to take care of all the cartels.
TroutCreekOkanagan t1_j34n3xf wrote
The tallest president in many years. If you like tall presidents with red hats, this could be your favourite.
SsurebreC t1_j34wi9r wrote
From the article:
> > The defense secretary, Luís Cresencio Sandoval, told reporters that Guzmán had been transferred to the Mexican capital after his capture by members of the army and national guard.
BlackSabbathMatters t1_j34x9n4 wrote
He seriously proposed firing missiles from the US to take out drug labs in the Mexican jungle. He is a genuine idiot.
VitaminxDee t1_j350yto wrote
They flew him out of the country as quickly as they could. It'll be hell in Mexico for awhile .
JBredditaccount t1_j353ieg wrote
He also thought if they just pretended they didn't know anything about the missiles, people would believe some other country shot American weaponry at the cartels.
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Sweatytubesock t1_j359b2x wrote
He is indeed, but his idiocy is the only thing genuine about him.
pegothejerk t1_j359ty0 wrote
I think his diapers are genuine
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Spectre_06 t1_j35dfwr wrote
I remember the videos on LiveLeak of Mexican Marines pulling up on cartel members in their cars, dragging them out and slitting their throats, just to leave them in the middle of said street.
Mexican Marines don't fuck around.
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BrutusGregori t1_j35g96w wrote
Someone watched Sicario 2
WallabyUpstairs1496 t1_j35hk6w wrote
somebody call walter white
ChalupaCabre t1_j35i2ft wrote
Stable genius, much?
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globetheater t1_j35j1v5 wrote
I was thinking more Narcos
CinSugarBearShakers t1_j35jgkj wrote
And snorting Adderall.
Automatic-Pea6605 t1_j35ka66 wrote
Many people are saying the tallest president ever, can you believe it?
riding_tides t1_j35kd1p wrote
$5M reward from the US on his capture.
jert3 t1_j35ojl5 wrote
Hey, if Kushner could find peace in the Middle East, then ya.
Ariandrin t1_j35q2zn wrote
Because worse awaits them if the roles are reversed and the cartels get the jump.
Waste-Worth-1047 t1_j35r73u wrote
zero. it would be way too embarrassing and as mentioned the last time they got him it wasn't a raid and they didn't have the support to pull it off. they still have leverage as well. either call off the dogs and serve your time in mexico or you'll be in the cell block your father is at the supermax in the US painting your walls with your own poop.
CoochieSnotSlurper t1_j35ra48 wrote
Genuine question- if mexicos gov signed off on it, why not?
toomuchmarcaroni t1_j35siej wrote
Holy shit
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MrHollandsOpium t1_j35u1u1 wrote
This is like the scene in Sicario.
MrHollandsOpium t1_j35u3ak wrote
More like Sicario
Aazadan t1_j35un4r wrote
Because they didn't sign off. And they can't be asked to do so because the cartels would likely hear about it.
unique-name-9035768 t1_j35wevx wrote
Maybe it was Canada!
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oeuvre-and-out t1_j35zp2r wrote
Hey, that ruse might work. After all, it's only illegal drug labs...it's not like it's a 1200km long international oil supply pipeline.
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SysDym t1_j366qvb wrote
Look forward to watching this on Netflix Narcos.
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angrymoppet t1_j367toh wrote
Firing missiles to resolve law enforcement issues is probably not the greatest precedent to set.
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420ipblood t1_j36b48k wrote
The downvotes should tell you this comment was just...no.
thegeorgianwelshman t1_j36b7ui wrote
Well it was meant as a piece of levity, but I get it.
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saxman90 t1_j36bxq7 wrote
It Depends
SpaceTabs t1_j36ddq0 wrote
Mexico goes to the helos and mini guns straight away now. They can strafe the compounds because they are fairly large and open. This was also done just south of Sinaloa in Nayarit a few years ago when the government turned against another drug lord.
This seems to be Mexico's MO now. Take bribes from the cartel until they get too powerful, then raid them with the marines or air force using mini guns. They also pit the cartels against each other because the police aren't very effective.
In the future, these cartels will probably spend less time and money on open compounds because of this and explosive-dropping drones.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/10/mexico-helicopter-gun-drug-cartel-leader-killed
riptide81 t1_j36mrci wrote
Is it really the government doing the orchestrating or do they just turn on whoever got outbid?
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dream208 t1_j36o0nr wrote
Actually I wonder if Trump’s narcissism, hubris and recklessness backed by US military machine would be exactly the unlikely counter to something as vile and as ingrained as Mexican cartels.
SpaceTabs t1_j36oqzt wrote
Definitely the government. The US actually arrested the former defense minister. The DEA had him on multiple intercepts bribing everyone.
The relationship obviously soured after that, probably the reason for Biden's visit.
https://www.propublica.org/article/mexico-drug-cartels-cienfuegos-case-dea
bloodmonarch t1_j36pi2d wrote
Tbf the precedent was already made with a big ass bomb
webdevguyneedshelp t1_j36qq7i wrote
Not defending trump but the cartel is bigger than a law enforcement issue. They practically have their own military.
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Tough-Relationship-4 t1_j36ws98 wrote
Those Costa Ricans are rascals aren’t they?
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Showerthawts t1_j374kwj wrote
Just explode drug labs all over the jungle, why not? That will solve the problem for sure and the environmental damage is inconsequential I guess. Not like he'd know, he skipped Vietnam and never saw what agent orange did.
Pabi_tx t1_j3757i2 wrote
Neither was invading Iraq but we did it anyway.
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rata_rasta t1_j377924 wrote
Doesn't solve shit and actually causes more issues... waste of money and resources. Check out Plan Colombia entry in Wiki and in general the war on drugs failure can give you an insight
Rambos_Beard t1_j37llp7 wrote
We trained with them in 96 and 97 when they were starting to change their doctrine to being more active against drug cartels and I can vouch for that. One had a polaroid of him holding two heads in his hands of cartel guys he said chopped off with a machete. That was beyond bizarre for 22 year old me to see.
coolluck33 t1_j37n98o wrote
If u don't kill the roaches when they first appear, then you'll never be rid of them...
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waiv t1_j37u5t1 wrote
That turned out to be a lie, they had an operation to arrest him back in 2019, they just botched it badly because they used his new "National Guard" to do it and they were inexperienced in these kind of operations. Now they used the Marines and they extracted him quickly, but the government failed to defend the city.
Odd-Cartoonist-288 t1_j3801c9 wrote
This is also what I've heard.
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pamar456 t1_j39oj9t wrote
Cartels are more like militias then little street gangs. Some have mil style uniforms and everything
pamar456 t1_j39omfx wrote
It’s better off today than under saddam
MSD101 t1_j3ano1l wrote
We've been trying this for decades in the War on Drugs, and it just isn't an effective strategy. This isn't even an effective strategy fighting the Taliban for 20 years. Criminal organizations or insurgent groups will always have the manpower to continue their operations. A real solution to Cartels isn't a military one.
They only need land, poor people to take advantage of, a means of transportation, and demand. We have never been able to stem the flow of any of these things through force. Mexican cartels are powerful because the US demand for drugs is insane. Had we spent all this time and money doing research on drugs, having actual drug education programs (DARE is more akin to propaganda), and using when we know to legalize and decriminalize where we can, the cartels would be far less powerful.
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