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redvelvetcake42 t1_ivphlgt wrote

This is a far bigger thing than we realize right now. This basically means they have to move troops to hold Crimea. They can't hold the territory they want so I'm waiting to see if they can keep the land bridge to Crimea. This is not good.

Edit: Russian boys out here mad that they're army is getting flexed on. Stay mad boys, your entire history always ends with "and so Russia fell apart".

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Odd-Employment2517 t1_ivq7wus wrote

Ukraine retaking the largest city Russia has occupied would be a massive win for Ukraine and a huge loss of face for the already constantly embarrassed russians

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86rpt t1_ivqu17j wrote

They will simply advance the troops that have been fighting for Crimea. They have very well been effective in their current numbers. Holding a defensive tactical position across a river is a fantastic position to be if thinking from a defensive standpoint.

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redvelvetcake42 t1_ivqzra9 wrote

Edit: I read their comment as FOR Russia not FOR Ukraine

>They will simply

Let me stop you there, not how Russian military tactics work. Nothing has been simple for them.

>They have very well been effective in their current numbers.

You don't pull out of a major city and fall back if you've been effective. You don't pull from Crimea unless you're desparate.

>Holding a defensive tactical position across a river is a fantastic position

Absolutely not correct for Russia. They have limited supplies, low armor, low morale, dwindling weapons, untrained soldiers and 0 morale. Ukraine pushed them all the way to the door of Crimea. The Russian Navy even retreated. Russia has steadily lost ground and gave up a huge strategic city. You cannot use the water lanes there anymore. It's a disaster.

>thinking from a defensive standpoint.

To continue, your defenders need SUPPLIES. They are almost entirely cut off from supplies with that waterway being a supply shipping lane that they've lost now. This is an unmitigated disaster.

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86rpt t1_ivr213u wrote

I am speaking for Ukraine not Russia. You read me backwards.

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86rpt t1_ivrfsyu wrote

Fantastic counter argument if it were the other way around though 😂

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