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thefugue t1_itvg8tg wrote

So China is doing shady things according to a shady organization.

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Ogcloud420o t1_itwc34q wrote

+1200 social points you can redeem it on moldy bread or dirty water

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thefugue t1_itwdsel wrote

lol- You're skeptical of a Reddit account that's been active for 13+ years but you hear claims from a Spanish NGO called "Safeguard Defenders" (who Google thinks is an "author,") and that doesn't raise any red flags for you?

Do I know that China manhandles and abuses it's people when they're overseas and behaving in ways that the government doesn't approve of? Yes I do.

Am I going to unquestioningly accept claims that they've set up clandestine police stations- an act that would impinge on a sovereign state's legal authority? No, I'm not.

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mrlolloran t1_itwikq4 wrote

They are not the only people reporting on this, there have been cases of Chinese nationals/immigrants being followed by suspected Chinese officials in the US. The “police stations thing was already uncovered in Canada and now the Netherlands too.

So this is not an isolated story and backs up a pattern of behavior China has already been found out to be engaged in.

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thefugue t1_itwjrue wrote

You just blew past everything I said and agreed with me for the most part. I'm fully aware that China's government messes with Chinese nationals in the U.S. and elsewhere.

That is a far cry from clandestine police departments, which would amount to technically invading another country. Outside of China, an authority that wants to bother someone from China is a bully, not a cop.

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