M3SS3NG3R t1_iso5e6o wrote on October 17, 2022 at 1:16 PM

Reply to comment by Balrok99 in Hong Kong protester dragged into Manchester Chinese consulate grounds and beaten up by AlxIp

Sure ROC wasn't perfect. But with 20/20 hindsight it is still miles better in comparison to the China of today. Just look at what they were eventually able to accomplish. IMO it would be better if China is officially no part of ROC. Then both can at least try to have a healthy relationship (even no relationship is healthier than what we have) and China can finally focus on self improvement instead of blaming their shortcomings on everyone else.

SomethingElse521 t1_ispgtgn wrote on October 17, 2022 at 6:53 PM

> But with 20/20 hindsight it is still miles better in comparison to the China of today

It was literally a feudal dictatorship what the fuck are you talking about lmao

M3SS3NG3R t1_isph5rb wrote on October 17, 2022 at 6:56 PM

When you compare garbage to shit aka the CCP it still smells better KTHXBYE.

SomethingElse521 t1_isph8h1 wrote on October 17, 2022 at 6:56 PM

Most enlightened western redditor.

Your argument is literally "the thing that was so unpopular and horrific in China that it was violently overthrown is actually way better than the thing they have now that the vast majority of the population likes"

[deleted] t1_ispi4eu wrote on October 17, 2022 at 7:02 PM

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TacoMedic t1_isyt9mm wrote on October 19, 2022 at 6:16 PM

Yeah the RoC was fucking awful until the '90s and didn't really develop itself into a decent nation until the early '00s. It's now a great nation (from an outside perspective, I've never been), but there's a valid reason as to why the CCP and KMT were at war. If the KMT had been a decent (read: non-corrupt) government, the CCP would have never gained the support that it did and China/South-East Asia may be republics today.

M3SS3NG3R t1_isyxgmf wrote on October 19, 2022 at 6:43 PM

Well I've been and in fact my father was involved in the movement that eventually led to the RoC of today. For whatever its fault the RoC never billed itself a bully on the international stage. That for me puts it above the CCP already. Feudal dictatorship? Absolutely. Take a good look at Emperor Winnie and tell me that isn't a feudal dictatorship. So really, pot calling kettle black pretty weak illustration on how the CCP of today is any better than the RoC of yesteryears.