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victorfiction t1_ja4n6pp wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Israelis, Palestinians pledge to curb violence at Jordan meeting by Hiversitize

Israel doing this alone ain’t enough. Needs to be a global effort — we all have an investment in seeing this region find a path forward. Religion is such a toxic man-made creation.

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starmartyr t1_ja4ynfb wrote

It isn't really a religious conflict. There are two groups fighting over the same piece of land. The groups are identified by different religions but they aren't fighting over religion. A similar conflict was The Troubles in Ireland. It was Catholics against Protestants but they weren't fighting about religion.

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freshgeardude t1_ja98xoc wrote

To say religion plays no part in this conflict is hilarious. Palestinians, and Muslims in general, believe Palestine is holy Muslim land. It's exactly why jews can't pray at their holiest religious site (the temple mount). It's Palestinian rejection of a Jewish state on any of the land.

Jews can't live in areas controlled by the PA..

If this had no religious component, this conflict would have ended a while ago.

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HelliswhereIwannabe t1_ja5cfut wrote

There are plenty of secular motivations behind the actions of both sides. Blaming religion just obfuscates that fact.

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victorfiction t1_ja5kb9f wrote

The religion is further radicalizing the folks who are doing the violence, compounding the issue with a more aggressive and virulent ideology. It allows them to dehumanize MUCH easier than just some land dispute.

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[deleted] t1_ja4nd60 wrote

Who is going to invest in Palestine?

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victorfiction t1_ja4nwc2 wrote

Same nations investing in Ukraine.

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[deleted] t1_ja4o730 wrote

Ukraine was a stable country before the war with Russia and will be stable after the war with Russia is over. Palestine barely has a government.

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magellan315 t1_ja5xn01 wrote

How about the oil rich Arab nations invest in the Palestinians first, up to know they only invest in Palestinian terrorists.

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Ed_Durr t1_ja8jnoy wrote

That would be nice. Now what’s your plan to make them do it?

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magellan315 t1_ja8pejz wrote

The Arab nations have always been selfish when it comes to the Palestinians. When jews fled or were forced out of Europe and the Middle East Israel took them in a gave the support and citizenship. The only thing the Arabs have done is use the Palestinians to fight a proxy war. Palestinians who live in Arab countries are treated like second class citizens and cannot obtain citizenship even if they are born in one.

If the Arab nations truly want to want to help the Palestinians they need to step up and help cleanup the mess they made. It should not be done by Western countries alone.

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