Yousoggyyojimbo t1_j8fcap0 wrote
Reply to comment by Ignorantsloth in Police in Shreveport accused of fatally shooting unarmed Black man who was running away by WE-NEED-MORE-CATS
When I say they need cause, they need provable cause.
You need a solid justifiable reason and a solid explanation for why you thought it was possible. You can't just say well, he was running and maybe he was gonna do something bad. Unless that guy was shouting that he was going to go kill somebody, specifically charging another person, something like that, they've got no actual cause.
If a cop can't figure out that a guy just running away to get away isn't probable cause to murder him, they shouldn't be a cop.
Ignorantsloth t1_j8fesf3 wrote
This is the system we have now though. The problem is cops aren't actually held accountable for their actions.
Who is going to investigate the cops killing someone. Other cops? "We have investigated ourselves and found that we have done nothing wrong."
Yousoggyyojimbo t1_j8fft0e wrote
If they get to do this all the time without repercussions, it's not actually the system we have now.
Very clearly there needs to be another judicial/investigative body that investigates the police. I don't think anybody has doubted that for the last 50 years
Ignorantsloth t1_j8fh18b wrote
What would guarantee those that the other body could not be corrupted or for any other reason be swayed to be in favor of the state? I think that this would just be the same situation we have now but with more steps and even less responsibility for the police.
Reforming the system to remove any opportunity for police to behave this way is what I think makes most sense.
Yousoggyyojimbo t1_j8fhbtr wrote
If we assume nothing will ever possibly work then we may as well just never talk about any problems. The way you are leading this means that literally no solution is good if human beings are involved in any capacity. You can apply it to literally any situation.
This is making the mistakes of letting perfect be the enemy of good.
neruat t1_j8hjvrg wrote
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Investigations_Unit_(Ontario)
That's how it works in Ontario Canada
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