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jeremygordonauthor t1_j8tmrwo wrote

Adding insult to injury, I don't think you could get more Darwinian than this Darwin award

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Sir_Gamealot t1_j8tnhbq wrote

I am willing to bet they killed him via the refeeding syndrome. If you give anything that raises insulin to someone who has fasted hard (without water) or long (over a week) you, dear doc, can kill him. Insulin depletes the already low phosphorus in his blood (shuttles it into all cells, regardless of the cells' needs for it) and that means some cells don't have enough phosphorus to create ATP while the metabolism ramps up severely fast. Cell die, organs die, patient dies, and the docs are happy that they did all they could for him.

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chewbaccawastrainedb t1_j8to90v wrote

It says 25 days without food or water but if you don't drink water in over 3 days you start dying. So going for 25 days seems rather suspect.

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Slight_Knight t1_j8tp9u5 wrote

And what was Jesus response to the devil tempting Jesus to jump off a cliff on his own 40 day fast?

"You shall not test the Lord your God"

Christians need to actually read the Bible.

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thought_first t1_j8tpduj wrote

According to the Good Book. Jesus was God in the Bod.

Average people shouldn't try this obviously and especially not in the desert with the Devil in your ear.

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dogsent t1_j8trj9n wrote

Replying to chewbaccawastrainedb (#1,835,326)

Today people say they are fasting, but still drink juice.

Fasting during Ramadan means abstinence from all food or drink, including water and chewing gum, from dawn to sunset.

We don't know what Jesus did. All the writings were done after he died. Also, 40 days is a symbolic number, so that could be inaccurate.

Fasting would not be a common practice if people died frequently.

Definitely suspect.

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vahntitrio t1_j8tt29d wrote

Replying to dogsent (#1,835,568)

40 isn't a symbolic number - it's just a translation thing. Imagine putting the number 7 in the place of every instance of the word several.

40 is inserted in the bible wherever a word that should more closely be translated to "many" appeared.

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5xad0w t1_j8tu3d9 wrote

It is always sad when someone dies needlessly due to mental illness.

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Aggie956 t1_j8tuunz wrote

Wouldn’t just praying have solved this ?

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TheRynoceros t1_j8tv9q0 wrote

Anybody else wanna do some fictional shit in real life?

I'm thinking about hiking to Mordor with my homie Roland to slay the Grendel.

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Squildo t1_j8txpbz wrote

Their faith clearly wasn’t strong enough

Jesus didn’t tap out

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Tchrspest t1_j8u1hgv wrote

I can't help but respect his devotion, in a sense. It's certainly a shame, but like, that's dedication.

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PyrrhoTheSkeptic t1_j8u1wtq wrote

Replying to chewbaccawastrainedb (#1,835,326)

I did a quick search on this. The world record is 18 days, and even that isn't a proper record without water:

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>Andreas Mihavecz, an 18-year-old Austrian man, may have survived the longest without drinking water: Police accidentally left him in a holding cell for 18 days in 1979. It's a fuzzy record, though, since he allegedly licked condensation off the walls of the prison.

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-the-longest-people-have-survived-without-air-food-water-sunshine-or-sleep

So he got some moisture licking the walls during that 18 day period, so even that was not completely without water.

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It is probably just false that this pastor went without water for 25 days.

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One must be an idiot to attempt to go 40 days without food or water. Food, that is possible (though not a good idea), but not water.

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ACorania t1_j8u2bms wrote

Poor guy, did no one tell him most 'christians' just lie and eat anyway so this type of thing doesn't happen and the miracle is 'proven'?

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dogsent t1_j8u3ysd wrote

Replying to Zootguy1 (#1,835,896)

According to the story, Jesus fasted until he had visions. I don't know what that means. I think he was trying to have visions. He was in the desert. So even with drinking water the body gets dehydrated.

Anyway, weird story. And a pretty dumb idea to try doing a fast like that.

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jetbag513 t1_j8u710i wrote

What Would TikTok Jesus Do?
Or, WWTTJD

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InfluenceTrue4121 t1_j8ud142 wrote

That’s what you get for trying to usurp Jesus’ 40 day record. His dad doesn’t take kindly to this crap.

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JoeGoats t1_j8ugilp wrote

Replying to Slight_Knight (#1,835,404)

I have a fun theory that Jesus never came back from the desert and died or disappeared out there. Satan took his place for the remainder of the story and Christians have been worshipping him ever since.

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colossalboom t1_j8uho8z wrote

Lol fasting without water? Who does he think he is, a Tibetan monk?

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groveborn t1_j8ujm6l wrote

Hey, it's great that you want to be like your hero, really great stuff...

But don't try to emulate a god. We can put aside the whole "it's made up" argument for this... A god has certain advantages over mortals. Namely immortality.

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1dad1kid t1_j8umwzj wrote

Didn't have enough faith I guess eyeroll

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Edwardc4gg t1_j8uoaua wrote

well he completed the 'ima go meet a ghost' challenge.

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MonstroFrog t1_j8uphht wrote

I was forced to go to a southern baptist church up until i was 17.

The Youth Pastor (A Pastor specifically for Teens and young adults) suggested doing this exact thing over 10 years ago when i was forced to go there by my family.

I stood up in the middle of him saying they should do this and screamed that anyone who tried that would likely die or risk permanent bodily harm. I mentioned how going more than 3 days without water can easily kill you due to dehydration and that we werent Jesus so we couldnt use "Holy Magic" to sustain ourselves nor did Jesus tell anyone to try doing this in the bible.

I was berated by the pastor and told to leave.

Shortly after however he got in trouble by the head of our church for suggesting something so dangerous and was fired.

I believe he runs another Youth Program in Arkansas now.

But i cant imagine what mighy of happened if those teens were gullible enough to try doing what he said.

Might have watched some friends die.

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Factsaretheonlytruth t1_j8uqks2 wrote

Just another data point demonstrating religion is a pandemic of mental illness.

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LiliNotACult t1_j8uvqkn wrote

This reminds me of kids trying to act out the feats in cartoons and comics. F for his family though.

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MyLifesParody t1_j8vf1ok wrote

40 days... 28 on water only was fucking brutal enough for me.

RIP.

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Davik t1_j8vg58t wrote

Religious people are strange.

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chockedup t1_j8vij35 wrote

Fiction disclaimers on fictional works are important.

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Dalantech t1_j8vqon6 wrote

Replying to thought_first (#1,835,411)

Actually, according to Revelations chapter 3:14...

>14 And
unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things
saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the
creation of God;

So Christ was the first thing that God created. Not particularly religious myself, but the whole trinity thing that a lot of "Christian" religions cling to doesn't seem to be based on their own manual. Besides, why would Christ pray to himself? Why, when asked about it by his disciples, did Christ say that he didn't know when the end would come (Matthew chapter 24)?

There are versions of the Bible that have a different interpretation of Revelations 3:14, but those denominations lean pretty heavy into the trilogy idea.

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Odd-Cartoonist-288 t1_j8vxtd1 wrote

Really made we worried that not eating killed him, but then I read he didn't drink water for 25 days ... that's actually impressive. Gives me hope if I'm ever stuck at sea.

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synchrohighway t1_j8w0at6 wrote

Jesus was a God, was he not? Seems blasphemous to presume a human being can do the same things.

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Electronic-1911 t1_j8w7vqu wrote

That is probably expected. The real test is if he came alive again…

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nWo1997 t1_j8w8qd3 wrote

Replying to Ironwolf7448 (#1,838,969)

I heard that the bear thing was less "a group of wee ones call a man bald" ("go up, baldie") and more "a mob of young men threateningly group up and shout at a man to die" ("go up, baldie").

It was in one of those "what does everyone get wrong about the Bible" threads on r/askreddit.

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MonsterMaud t1_j8x0wpv wrote

I'm pretty sure the secret to these is that you are supposed to sneak food and just claim you are surviving off of prayer

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Commie-cough-virus t1_j8xbpy2 wrote

Replying to MonstroFrog (#1,838,093)

I hope you don’t scream anymore to get your point across ;) That said, it was satisfying to read how your spirits were up, and not mentally shackled through years of religious dogma. I hope you’re doing well these days.

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TucuReborn t1_j8xbx8e wrote

Replying to thefoodiedentist (#1,835,511)

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Some religious people are extremely rigorous with science and knowledge. Historically, a lot of major scientists and academics were religious in some manner. Many got into science to "understand the heavens" so to speak.

And, for many religious people who actually study religion(which is academic in it's own right), they understand where myth, legend, and codified religious beliefs are in the texts and follow them accordingly.

For example, most Christian theologists know that creation myths exist to explain the world to early societies and should be taken with a pile of salt, so Genesis is seen less as "historical" and more "metaphorical" or just culturally relevant.

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Rutaguer t1_j8xfvx6 wrote

First of all, Jesus is a fictional character and the Bible is also mostly fictional. What's next? Trying to live inside a whale?

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arealhumannotabot t1_j8yacew wrote

Replying to dogsent (#1,835,568)

>Today people say they are fasting, but still drink juice.

There are huge forums of people ho do proper fasting, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Sounds like some people trying other things, orthey're calling it a "juice fast" referring to the liquid diet, and you're not framing it properly.

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Nigredo78 t1_j8yrokj wrote

same result with the walking on water challenge..

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investinlove t1_j970w79 wrote

Problem of Evil calling collect--but no one's picking up.

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Flashy_Attitude_1703 t1_j9bbtz7 wrote

Replying to Leifseed (#1,882,085)

My mother had Alzheimers, heart problems and other medical issues. Because of her Alzheimers she was in a memory care facility for many years. She was 92 and refused eat or drink. I think she decided it was time. It was decided to let her go rather than force feed her. The staff there kept her as comfortable as possible until she passed and my sister was there for her. Unfortunately I was too late to say goodbye.

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