OneManFreakShow t1_jadylxu wrote on February 28, 2023 at 7:17 PM

Reply to comment by YaGirlKellie in 'Very brave and honest' Kentucky toddler points officers to fugitive's hiding spot by AudibleNod

She was on meth. I understand how dumb the war on drugs is, but are we really going to overcorrect so hard that we feel bad for meth users that will ultimately get rehabilitated from situations like this? Someone using meth should not have a kid in their house, full stop. I promise he’s going to be much better off than if he didn’t tell them where she was and she ended up ODing.

YaGirlKellie t1_jadyzce wrote on February 28, 2023 at 7:19 PM

I want my family and friends who have drug problems to get medical help and social support not to get arrested, traumatized, and set back even further back in life by jail.

You are confusing prison with rehabilitation. It's not even close to the same.

The kid was, by the police's own admission, totally fucking fine and being taken care of and there were other adults in the house.

17times2 t1_jae60dw wrote on February 28, 2023 at 8:04 PM

> I want my family and friends who have drug problems to get medical help and social support not to get arrested, traumatized, and set back even further back in life by jail.

As someone who has lived with a methhead family member, sometimes jail is the only way they're going to get clean for any amount of time. Didn't matter how many times we supported them and took them to rehab. At their core, they did not want to get better.

> The kid was, by the police's own admission, totally fucking fine and being taken care of and there were other adults in the house.

Speaking from experience, it's fine until one day it's not, they flip shit, and try to kill everyone in the house. I still remember my uncle's face, as he smashed in the passenger window of the pickup truck, trying to pull me out of it while my grandma was driving us away.

strik3r2k8 t1_jaefhx6 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 9:05 PM

It’s a problem that it took jail to get them help. That criminalization was the priority.

OneManFreakShow t1_jadzl9m wrote on February 28, 2023 at 7:23 PM

She wasn’t getting social support, she was living with a family of enablers while actively running from several warrants. This isn’t some sad case of someone losing their kids over weed, the woman had warrants for multiple charges.

Babybutt123 t1_jaemnxh wrote on February 28, 2023 at 9:51 PM

Doesn't sound like he was her kid at all. Kid didn't live there, appeared healthy, happy, and didn't have signs of abuse.

My guess is his mom/dad is related to whoever has a drug problem.

I don't think active addicts should be around children (whether meth, booze, or whatever else), but he's also not getting removed from his parents nor is the addict his mom.

Also, criminalization of drug addiction doesn't solve the issue. If it did, we'd have won the war on drugs by now. Doesn't sound like she's committed property or violent crimes. Just that she's sick. Arresting her isn't helping anyone.

ADarwinAward t1_jaerhfg wrote on February 28, 2023 at 10:23 PM

Don’t get me wrong kids should not be around meth addicts (they imply it’s not his mom). However, Kentucky prisons don’t rehabilitate meth heads lol. They never have and never will. It’s Kentucky, not fucking Norway.

She’ll be getting meth in prison and she’ll be a meth head when she gets out.

ThomasVivaldi t1_jaed5dz wrote on February 28, 2023 at 8:50 PM

If we don't overcorrect things how are we going to be able to say that no middle ground is possible and that we should throw out any attempt to moderate or regulate society?