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DylonNotNylon t1_j9gj311 wrote

I honestly don't understand any bigotry, but I really don't understand it when I see it happening in someplace like NYC. It just seems like if you didn't like diversity it's not a place you'd want to live or visit.

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mdonaberger t1_j9gzim9 wrote

I've noticed that, for a lot of Americans who haven't visited, the scale of NYC can be really deceptive. It's huge. Huge huge. The longest distance you can travel end to end is 35 miles, all the same city. And it's dense as fuck.

It's big enough with its metro area for pretty much every kind of person to find a community there, hard right people included. Trump still received 691,682 votes in 2020 in NYC. Even the most obscure can find their own there, in niches big and small.

NYC has its own history with white supremacy as well — the old guard holds fast in many places.

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XLauncher t1_j9hh1jc wrote

Man, just say Staten Island. (I'm kidding. But only a little bit.)

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BunchaCreeps t1_j9ievtf wrote

No no. Let’s just say it with our chest

It’s Staten Island. It’s always been Staten Island

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Ben_Jahmin t1_j9l6kdt wrote

Staten Island, South Williamsburg where all the Hesidic jews who can't read are told to vote Trump, swaths of Italian bastions in Brooklyn and the Bronx, and a few parts deep in Queens.

+ a lot of the financial district in Manhattan, Tribeca, and the rich areas in Upper East and West.

These are where people voted Trump.

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ScientificSkepticism t1_j9i8n54 wrote

Staten Island is a garbage dump. Once they closed the dump, it became full of trash.

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Rage_Like_Nic_Cage t1_j9hbmvm wrote

> NYC has its own history with white supremacy as well

We’re all familiar with the NYPD, yes.

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leg_day t1_j9h6u34 wrote

> NYC has its own history with white supremacy as well

Robert Moses has entered the chat.

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Ayzmo t1_j9jsszy wrote

Fred Trump has entered the chat.

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skilledwarman t1_j9hpx2s wrote

> Trump still received 691,682 votes in 2020 in NYC.

For anyone wondering how that stacks up to the city's population NYC had 8.77 million people in 2020 (city, not metro area). I also believe those trump votes are just NYC itself and not metro area. I tried to find comperable numbers for Biden but could only find metro area.

Within the metro area the breakdown was:

-5.244 mil votes for Biden (Democrat and working families party tickets)

-3.251 mil votes for Trump (Republican and conservative party tickets)

-18.804 million people in the NYC metro area in 2020

Just to be clear that's not to argue or dispute anything the above comment was saying. That comment just made me curious about how the numbers lined up and so I thought maybe other people wanted to see that too

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boregon t1_j9i2g3u wrote

Bet a lot of those Trump votes were from Long Island

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skilledwarman t1_j9i2kkh wrote

Probably alot from suffolk

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TechyDad t1_j9ieypo wrote

As someone who grew up in Suffolk county and whose parents still live there? Definitely.

I'm glad I don't live there anymore.

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hirsutesuit t1_j9jvbvy wrote

Well the New York Metropolitan area (what all looks like the same city from a plane) has more people than:

Wyoming

Vermont

Alaska

North Dakota

South Dakota

Delaware

Rhode Island

Montana

Maine

New Hampshire

Hawaii

West Virginia

Idaho

Nebraska

and New Mexico

...combined. It's gonna take up some space.

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Antnee83 t1_j9ji9f6 wrote

> I've noticed that, for a lot of Americans who haven't visited, the scale of NYC can be really deceptive. It's huge. Huge huge.

The very first thing I noticed as my plane was landing in LaGuardia the first time was the absolutely ridiculous scale of the city. It seriously looks like it stretches to the horizon.

It's unfathomable to me that as a species we're able to build and manage something of that size.

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mdonaberger t1_j9lw2xo wrote

Oh and NYC isn't even the impressive one — México City makes New York look like a village.

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Sea-Acanthisitta-316 t1_j9gzao8 wrote

Even in the most liberal of cities you still have about 33% of people voting conservative. They are just drowned out more in NYC, but from a sheer population perspective, if even 10% of the population is homophobic, that's over a million people, more than most US cities. Being part of the community, I'll never fool myself into thinking that I'm truly safe from a hate crime just because I live in NYC

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happy_halloweenie t1_j9h9e5h wrote

I live in the most liberal neighborhood in my liberal city and my next door neighbor had a big trump flag in his window

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sloppyredditor t1_j9gk5nt wrote

I’ve always found New Yorkers silly. Why live in one of the most expensive, diverse, and densely populated cities in the world if you don’t like people?

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JPBillingsgate t1_j9gmw4u wrote

Reminds me of a joke from Crocodile Dundee:

"That's incredible. Imagine seven million people all wanting to live together. Yeah, New York must be the friendliest place on earth."

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SatanicNotMessianic t1_j9ifagk wrote

The funny thing about a city like New York is that you actually have more privacy walking down a street with a half million other people than you have in a rural town.

No one in New York cares about you even enough to notice you. They walk past Naked Singing Cowboy without a sideward glance.

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secretactorian t1_j9hksjy wrote

They probably find you silly too.

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sloppyredditor t1_j9hzugs wrote

Yeah but I don’t have to bump into them all the time

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secretactorian t1_j9i74lb wrote

Neither does anyone who looks where they're walking. What's your point?

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sloppyredditor t1_j9i7fq8 wrote

Fewer people outside NYC. If you don’t like constant crowds don’t pay a premium to live in them.

Is that clear enough or does Reddit need a Crayola font for you

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guiltyofnothing t1_j9hcnra wrote

NYC is very diverse as a whole but many communities are very homogenous, including the many conservative areas in a very liberal city.

Also — these jackoffs could be from Jersey.

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DJCzerny t1_j9hhqot wrote

Northern Jersey is basically an extension of the NY metro area anyway.

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Heiferoni t1_j9jbofi wrote

Being a bigot in NYC must be exhausting.

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[deleted] t1_j9irr5u wrote

Simple message: “you’re not safe anywhere.” Terrorism 101.

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FerociousPancake t1_j9io4fo wrote

Those people always say how other people shove their views in their face and they don’t like that, then the same people publicly burn a flag…

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