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earhere t1_j9ph9oe wrote

Reply to comment by Daddydeader in Approaching Nine Months Since Tennessee’s Abortion Ban, DCS Remains in Disarray by SnarkOff

The cruelty is the point. They don't care about long term issues when they can oppress women right now.

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[deleted] t1_j9poupz wrote

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Hopeful_Hamster21 t1_j9sjpvm wrote

On the one hand, I completely agree with your points. On the other hand, I can't help but think that for all of human history, before modern medicine, the suffering that you describe was the default and only option for humans. Biology can be cruel and unfair. Evolution is a sloppy engineer.

I view the right to choose, provided by modern medicine, to be a gift that we (as humans) have empowered ourselves with. No woman (or anybody involved) takes abortions all willy-nilly - - they're very serious and often emotionally painful experiences. But allowing them is the right thing.

I just can't help but think that the notion of "forcing" people into childbirth is strictly a modern notion that only exists because of the medical advancements that we've made that allow for a safe abortion.

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Hopeful_Hamster21 t1_j9txccu wrote

I agree with everything that you said. If you got the impression that I was somehow rationalizing forcing people into childbirth, I most definitely was not. If that's how it came across, that was a miscommunication on my part.

My only point was that the entire topic is something that is not only unique to humans as a species, but is also unique to humans of the modern age.

I also agree - comprehensive sex education is also very important and something we should provide to every young person.

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[deleted] t1_j9u4zzq wrote

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Hopeful_Hamster21 t1_j9ughbe wrote

Oh, for sure! Yeah, reddit can be mad sometimes, lol. But I didn't take your comment harsh at all. :-). I found it an informative and valuable comment, but not hash. I did, however, notice that my original comment had some down votes, so I wanted to add some clarification and additional context for all the other Redditors reading this thread. I was unsure if you did or did not think I was advocating forcing people into childbirth - but I realized that there was a risk that other readers might. My reply was both to you and to the general public at large. Thank you for the conversation. Cheers!

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Daddydeader t1_j9pish4 wrote

It is about the cruelty at this point. They can say that all this happened under Biden and bam, their voters believe it.

Or they can blame the results on those that were not given the option to choose by framing them as immoral.

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slippery_eagle t1_j9q8a5p wrote

It's all about punishing women for enjoying sex.

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Daddydeader t1_j9qilou wrote

It's to normalize a lack of choice for the population. Next it will be clothing choices or vaccines or crossing state lines.

It is also to counter the declining population in the worst way possible.

And finally, it's to keep people poor helping to create a permanent underclass. Preferably one that will view military service as a step up.

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slippery_eagle t1_j9qlzlp wrote

They'll outlaw birth control next. Then divorce.

President de santis will have his own theocracy.

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candiescorner t1_j9ruirt wrote

They’re already choosing clothing options the anti-trans bills the drag queen bills they’re telling people what they can and cannot wear now they just passed a bunch of them today

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DarkWasp14 t1_j9uvh8c wrote

I find it odd you slipped vaccines in there when that’s for the overall good of a healthy society. We need people to stop the spread of diseases like polio, measles etc. it’s strange to me to lump that in with abortion rights and clothing choices.

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Daddydeader t1_j9ux47s wrote

Idaho is currently trying to do exactly that....

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Flaky_Seaweed_8979 t1_j9s5ha2 wrote

It’s also about destabilizing their lives so much that they’re dependent on their baby daddy and don’t get ideas about things and start voting Democrat. Oh and the future child-run meat packing plants. Wish that were hyperbole.

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