onecrazyguy1 t1_j9lhymp wrote on February 22, 2023 at 9:02 PM

Reply to comment by MC_chrome in Israeli West Bank raid kills 10 Palestinians and hurts more than 100 others. by CrackHeadRodeo

I'm not sure what table you are talking about? Beginning meaning when? If you are talking about the creation of Israel, America had nothing to do with that, the British effectively left, there was a proposal that Israel said yes to and Palestinians said no to, the Palestinians and Arabs attacked the Jews and then the Jews won. They have always been included, I am not sure what you are saying?

MC_chrome t1_j9ljjxj wrote on February 22, 2023 at 9:12 PM

>America had nothing to do with that

Per the US State Department’s own website, this is objectively not true

Basically, Britain was in favor of supporting Arabs in Palestine because it suited their interests better, while America was more in favor of displaced Jews from World War II having a place to live.

onecrazyguy1 t1_j9llcye wrote on February 22, 2023 at 9:23 PM

It's actually objectively true. All the US did was recognize them as a country, negotiation would have done nothing. Thee had been plenty of negotiation for many years since way before the Holocaust or WWII. The Arabs and Jews were effectively in civil war, every compromise was rejected no matter what, which is exactly what the Arabs said they would do. There was never going to be a one state solution, neither side was willing to do that, decades of mandate histoiry show why that is a ridiculous idea. Israel looks the way it does because the Palestinians attacked and lost, no negotiations would change that, even if the UN did not vote, there would still be a state of Israel, it had been brewing for decades. All the British did was punt the League of Nations question from WWI to the UN.