coondingee t1_ja9g1y7 wrote on February 27, 2023 at 8:40 PM

Reply to comment by LevelStudent in A transgender woman will compete in a Puerto Rico pageant for the first time by BecuzMDsaid

Not an idiotic question because people are actually asking these questions. We don’t know what the future may hold. Better example for you. If a trans woman was is in a womans sport, what’s to stop her from discontinuing her estrogen supplements right before a contest? Please don’t get me wrong. My son is trans but I’m really wondering how this will play out in the next few years.

Karenomegas t1_ja9iwkx wrote on February 27, 2023 at 8:58 PM

What does it matter? This isn't a sport, this is a competition of aesthetic and appeal. Its a beauty contest. Just asking questions is literally template sealioning at this point.

Be supportive. Don't drag your kid into it. They will thank you in twenty years regardless.

enigmamonkey t1_jaa9zeo wrote on February 27, 2023 at 11:58 PM

Just chiming in here since this discourse feels like it's turning toxic (more on that below).

FWIW, I fully support Daniela Arroyo and anyone in her position who would be undergoing any sort of gender affirming care.

> Just asking questions is literally template sealioning at this point.

I think the primary difference here (re: sealioning) might be if you're already engaged in a discourse with an individual who engaged in sealioning over multiple exchanges in a dialog. If the person doesn't have a history of doing it just yet (maybe later on in the discussion) then I don't think it's fair to label them that way; at least not yet.

I just don't think it's fair to prevent people from asking any and all questions, regardless of their intent and without knowing their intent. You may think it's stupid or that it's completely obvious to you, but shutting people down simply for asking isn't the best way to help those who are actually honestly curious. It likely just entrenches them further.

Karenomegas t1_jaaidg8 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 12:59 AM

Cheers. The reddit text has jaded me into being a bit jumpy. Thank you for reminding me how to human a bit.

enigmamonkey t1_jaaiv5k wrote on February 28, 2023 at 1:02 AM

Much love! I'm pretty cynical, too, and I totally understand the feeling.

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Karenomegas t1_ja9k9hk wrote on February 27, 2023 at 9:07 PM

My sincerest if I found the wrong tree to bark up.

I, and many, many of my peers are related to conservative persons who would call themselves parents. That use our existence to further conversations in their favor to the best of their neurotic abilities. It is a trope within the community.

Edit: Even going so far as to use the pronoun in relation to your kin. Disingenuous actors use language in a fashion to bait and trap issues like its a game. And some of us are at real risk.