ballade__ t1_j1unzc2 wrote
Reply to comment by WaterAirSoil in Why are NJ doctors, especially those in family medicine all joining for-profit, multi-specialty medical groups? Those groups do are deteriorating the good doctor and patient communication/relationship that use to exist. by Eastcoastpal
Interesting, my experience is the opposite! There are so many easier ways to make money than investing four years in undergrad, four in med school, three in residency working 80+ hour weeks, +/- a fellowship after. Ya gotta REALLY be dedicated to go through all that.
WaterAirSoil t1_j1uzppd wrote
It’s not as difficult as you make it out to be. Most of them come from family with money and have extra curricular activities and internships arranged for them. They go to undergrad just like everyone else. Medical school is set up to be as accommodating as possible as so almost no one fails out. You don’t even have to show up to lectures you can pay to have receive transcripts from each class and just show up to the tests.
Yes it takes a lot of work but most people with a graduate degree have put in the same work but their degree doesn’t get compensated as much because their careers aren’t protected like doctors. If you come from another country you have to get into a residency/fellowship program first here in the states unlike say a computer engineer that can easily obtain a job here in the states with their foreign degrees.
Again, my experience is that about 95% of doctors would never have become one of it weren’t for the unwritten promise of being in the elite crowd and going to dinners and wearing fancy clothes.
SK10504 t1_j1w3mn5 wrote
The doctors going to fine dining and wearing fancy clothes are in specialties that do not accept insurance or in discretionary medical services (i.e. cosmetic/plastic surgery, dermatology, cosmetic dentistry) Ones in primary care live like any other middle/upper middle income folks.
Doctors trained in foreign countries being required to go through residency/fellowship in the US is not a bad thing. It establishes an expected minimal level care, normalizes the standard of treatment as well as provides foreign trained doctors plenty of supervised training dealing with illnesses seen in the host country. This way, a doctor trained in Vanuatu, Palau or Switzerland can provide you with the same level of care as ones trained in the US.
fuzzy_dunlop_221 t1_j1w5kob wrote
I mean you really only described one of many of the shittier caricatures/stereotypes of doctors so I'm gonna venture and guess you were surrounded by the numbers doc/the ones who audit their own practice and timed each second as valuable because time is money rather than time can save lives.
Yeah there are these kinds of doctors around. There are nurses like this around. There's plenty of great doctors out there who are just normal people. Maybe because doctors are just normal people, not heroes. Healthcare workers are normal people.
Half the times, I see people talk down on doctors and such, it's always based on an idea of a person representing the entire profession for them. Or people judge people worse for not living up to the expectation that they're heroes.
Seems to be a common thing on social media these days for example to call nurses mean girls and think bullies end up nurses and nursing is to girls what cops are to men. Like where are all these asshole docs and bully nurses? I work in patient care. As far as I can tell, more than half the times patients or their families are nasty af and staff just trying to remain calm while taking abuse.
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