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Linenoise77 t1_iui5cy6 wrote

Mixed feelings.

On one hand, having worked in large office buildings that might take you 10 minutes to get to your desk from when you hit the front door, large corporate campuses, etc, i'm inclined to count that as part of a persons commute.

On the other hand, Great Adventure is large, and traffic blows getting in there on some days, so you would expect that they should have some type of process to minimize delays for employees

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Chris2112 t1_iuijd1r wrote

While walking through the park you're expected to stop and help guests if requested, so absolutely you should be getting paid. When I worked there as a kid you'd clock in at the admin building in the employee parking lot, then get your till (if applicable) and head to your location via the secret exit by the Gotham stadium. And you'd continue to be on the clock until you checked out at the same place you clocked in, which is right next to the employee parking lot

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neversayduh t1_iuifmns wrote

I worked there briefly decades ago so I don't know if it's the same routine but I'd have to check in to find out what section of the park I'd be working in, then get the uniform (there was sometimes a wait for this) and change into it before walking to my station. All that could take 45 minutes or longer and it was unpaid.

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Linenoise77 t1_iuih437 wrote

In that case, in my mind you should be on the clock from the moment you check in. If six flags doesn't want to pay you, they should provide uniforms you can take home, and let you know what to wear and then you dress at home.

Basically once you checked in, you are waiting on your employer, so it should be on their dime.

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Basedrum777 t1_iuir9z9 wrote

That's exactly the issue. When I worked at Wawa counting the drawer was paid time. Sick flags hasn't done that and its almost definitely illegal.

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daedalus_was_right t1_iuj1joi wrote

Why shouldn't a commute be compensated these days?

Especially now that WFH is an option, and most people are priced out of living in the communities they work in, commutes should be part of your compensation package. I commute almost 3 hours round trip for my job, and I'm a fucking high school teacher making peanuts.

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Linenoise77 t1_iujmzxq wrote

Well, it is, generally speaking, if you are negotiating for your pay. I've worked jobs with really shitty commutes where it was worth it, and i've worked shit jobs with awesome commutes where it wasn't.

In the case of six flags here, there are extraneities here that aren't present in other jobs. I'd wager this case falls right along labor laws (some with good intentions intended) and six flags will end up having to settle or split the difference and make some changes. Six flags could also argue though, "Hey we pay 15 year olds 18 bucks an hour to sell cotton candy, we are accounting for those hassles in our wages"

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ophidiophobia_py_dev t1_iuioq1s wrote

What about liability, they get hit by a golf cart on prem how should they be covered?

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Linenoise77 t1_iuitnoz wrote

The same as if i get hit by a car in my offices parking lot on the way to my desk...

so like...it depends.

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ophidiophobia_py_dev t1_iuixgpm wrote

That's a problem you're on your company's property you should be covered under work comp

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coversbyrichard t1_iujzdir wrote

I find it hard to equate an office job to an outdoor job at an amusement park.

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