Submitted by SnooBooks4898 t3_11w2ui0 in newjersey

It seems like I hear about Newark “coming back” every couple of years. However I just read about a developer’s plan to build a 15 story, 200+ unit residential/retail building right in the heart of downtown. Is Newark on the upturn?

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fltlsyko t1_jcw7uv7 wrote

Jersey City is nearly stuffed to the gills with highrises, Newark is no doubt next in line. The gentrification near the PATH is already started, it's going to keep spreading.

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EssexCountyBreakdown t1_jcwdxjr wrote

Yeah, I agree with this. Transportation into NYC is pretty convenient from Newark. I'd say it's really just a matter of time.

I've been working downtown for 20 years now. There's been a steady pace of development, between construction at the colleges, residential conversions (the Walker House, Eleven 80, et al) and new development like the Shaq Towers. Things seem to be accelerating.

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Lowkeylowthreadcount t1_jcxu4l2 wrote

People have been saying this since the early 2000’s. Much like Jersey City, there are parts of Newark closer to the path that have slowly become more gentrified, but there are also deep pockets of both places that don’t have great access to public transit and because of that will not even be flipped into neighborhoods with white people taco spots and boutique coffee shops.

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fltlsyko t1_jcyfoq3 wrote

Yup, that's just how gentrification works in cities. That's why you don't see NYU students and families from the Midwest with strollers walking around Canarsie. I was just making a generalization, one would have to write a whole essay to address the way every neighborhood will be affected individually.

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sutisuc t1_jd33sr5 wrote

You shouldn’t even have had to clarified since you literally stated you were talking about areas close to the PATH. This guy just wanted to pull a “well actually” and pretend like he knew something the rest of us didn’t

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fltlsyko t1_jd380y1 wrote

Lol that's reddit for you. Probably didn't even read past the first few words.

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sutisuc t1_jd1jnva wrote

I mean no city is ever fully gentrified. Even in Brooklyn there’s plenty of spots that aren’t in great shape still (Brownsville, east New York, etc)

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free_acelehy t1_jcwqs55 wrote

Did they ever finish the Museum Of Science And Trucking over by the Esplanade?

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dukeoflodge t1_jcwsk43 wrote

I heard it got delayed because they were hiring non-union workers

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Sinsid t1_jcxsci3 wrote

Why would you ever want to finish a gravy train? That’s why the 46/3 interchange has been under construction for 10 years.

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chinasucksmyballs t1_jcyf5mz wrote

it hasn't been close to 10 years lol. more like 3/4

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Sinsid t1_jcyljtv wrote

Nope it’s been close to 10. My son is 11, he went to a daycare off valley road. That shit was under construction since he was 2 at least. When he hit kindergarten we held a feast at my home. The feast of no more paying for daycare and commuting through a construction zone.

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chinasucksmyballs t1_jcyma4n wrote

I drive that every single day. It’s been under 5. Maybe you’re thinking about the surrounding area like the Van Houten area but the actual 46/3 split is around 5 maybe less.

It can’t be 10 cuz I have been living here for 9 and the construction didn’t start til a few years after me

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Sinsid t1_jcymur9 wrote

https://www.nj.gov/transportation/commuter/roads/rt46/faq.shtm

It’s 8 according to NJ. Although I swear shit was going on on valley road even before that.

Also according to NJ it was substantially completed in 2017, lololol.

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chinasucksmyballs t1_jcynlml wrote

Technically you may be correct that it started in 2015 but that was the surrounding area they were prepping.

I meant the actual 46/3 interchange didn’t start work until the last 5.

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Sinsid t1_jcyo92y wrote

Planning started in 2000 according to that website. There is some person in NJ who has basically spent their entire working career from college to retirement working on this.

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ProfessorNiedermeier t1_jczbw4f wrote

People don't graduate from college until the age of 42 now? Shit, no wonder they have so much college loan debt.

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GhostOfRobertTreat t1_jcwi43g wrote

Come over to /r/Newark if you’re interested in a development discussion. There’s a lot more current under construction and a ton more planned.

Newark is large. When we say “Newark’s comeback,” we should be clear what we’re talking about. Which is generally a Downtown that’s competitive with Hoboken and JC in terms of nightlife and residential options.

There are areas of the city that still struggle with crime and poverty but even those areas are much safer and better off than say 20 - 30 years ago. On the other hand, a single-family home near me just sold for $1.2M.

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jackietreehorn313 t1_jcwua36 wrote

>Is Newark on the upturn?

Uh, where you been? It's been on the upturn since 2016. The University Heights area and Downtown is getting built up.

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LateNightNewYork t1_jcwffme wrote

High rise luxury apartment construction has been been happening downtown for the last decade.

Even outside of downtown, literally everything has improved in the last 10 years.

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peter-doubt t1_jcwaaw9 wrote

200 units in 15 floors isn't much out if line with the buildings we saw from the 60s-80s. I just hope it has a tasteful exterior. Newark can use some attractive construction... all too often it's similar to everywhere else

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storm2k t1_jcyhew2 wrote

based on most of the new construction i've seen everywhere else in the city, it won't be. it will be the same cookie cutter bs that gets thrown up everywhere. at this point the only places you see "interesting" facades are usually when they redevelop historic buildings and they try to keep the historic facades.

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Dozzi92 t1_jcw4bkj wrote

This one feels legitimate to me, considering I'm seeing more than just shovels in the ground too. I also know nothing.

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srddave t1_jcwopqk wrote

Like 5-10 years ago. There are cranes and developments going up everywhere in Newark. It’s crazy.

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Thisismypasswprd t1_jcxeszz wrote

You HEARD about one building? They've been putting up building for years. Op just woke up after 30 years of sleep

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Nexis4Jersey t1_jcx5rao wrote

There were just 10 redevelopment posts made to r/newark , and there's usually one made once a week...the current redevelopment boom has been going on for the last decade mainly in the Downtown / University Heights and the Ironbound.. Only in recent years has that begun to spread to other sections of the city...

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Lower-Link t1_jcxkwmo wrote

There are also informative posts on jerseydigs.com

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Rainbowrobb t1_jcxt91e wrote

If you can managed to beat corporate investment firms, absolutely!

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ohhyoudidntknow t1_jcz3hme wrote

Yea, a lot of banks are moving to Newark also.

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sutisuc t1_jd1jj6f wrote

It’s gentrifying pretty rapidly now

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Lost-Recording3890 t1_jcy518z wrote

It’s been slow & grinding, but downtown Newark has really been up the up. I think the Whole Foods was the grand marker for gentrification. I have my reservations though because the city is still plagued with problems & nobody in their right mind would willingly subject their kids to that school district. In all likelihood, downtown and adjacent areas will get NYC professionals and hipsters, but the outlier regions will remain bad.

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Jimmy_kong253 t1_jcxceso wrote

I've worked in downtown Newark for the last 20yrs it doesn't deserve the bad reputation it has. But outside of events in the Prudential center or njpac and walking in branchburg park it's really a boring city for stuff to do. Once you do one portuguese restaurant over there you done em all. There's not much of a interesting street life over there either just homeless

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sutisuc t1_jd1kn6q wrote

Yup you’re right. Especially when you compare Newark to other similarly sized cities there’s really not a lot going on but that has more to do with NYC being ten miles away and most of the action being concentrated there.

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thebruns t1_jcwjucc wrote

It's basically been one (1) new building a year for the last 10 years.

Last year was Urby, this year is Shaq building

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