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asuds t1_iz4ostf wrote

Reply to comment by AuthorSnow in Sununu, GOP blast DNC demand that NH change primary law by IBlazeMyOwnPath

What makes you so upset about this potential change? Why wouldn’t a population more representative of the country be perhaps a better initial indicator? Or is it just “me first” selfishness?

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Dartmeth t1_iz5zcd6 wrote

I am against the change. Background, I live and grew up in NH, lived in SC, and is currently a registered democrat.

NH has the racial diversity of a black pepper cracker, at 92.8% white I can understand that. Using that same statistic, the US is 75.8% and SC is 68.6%. Closer, but skews in the opposite direction.

Both states skew older than the US as a whole, with the US at 16.8%, followed by SC at 18.6% and NH at 19.3%. In fact, many people that go between the two regions note that NH/MA have a similar dynamic as SC/NC.

What I think you will find is people who oppose this are going to have two arguments, one local and the other national.

First (local), NH is an extremely purple state. There is no dominant party in the state. Elections are typically closer here than the nation. This change could be used by the GOP to flip NH. NH Democrats have to resist because if not, this alone could cost them reelection. The GOP will use this to demonize the DNC in NH (already started), and they will be successful if NH dems are not careful.

Second (national): many democrats in New Hampshire want the early primary states to be purple, competitive, with a populace that has strong voter engagement and has demonstrated that they can pick good candidates. With a 64.5% turnout for the 2020 elections in SC, many do not feel that they are a good early primary. It appears that a dominantly red state, with a disengaged populace is being seen as a better early slot. The last time a Democrat won the general in SC was Carter is 1972. Over the same period NH has selected the winning candidate in the general election all but two time (Kerry over Bush, and Clinton over Trump).

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SameOldiesSong t1_izaiiyo wrote

SC is a bigger state, so candidates with large war chests and national name recognition have a greater leg up in SC than they would in NH, where candidates can easily make their way around the state. NH is better for good-but-unknown candidates to develop a national profile.

In terms of selfishness, NH, NV, and Iowa did not go for Biden in 2020 primary. SC was the first that did and one of Biden’s most important backers was Clyburn. That’s a factor here that has nothing to do with picking a good state to go first.

Why not seek out a purple state where it would be good to grow our presence and turn it blue? NC and GA are better choices if race is the determinative factor.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz4syms wrote

But NH is…we are a purple state clear as day. We clearly vote based on policy. The DNC is attempting to punish NH due to Biden’s failures here. They are using identify politics as a means despite the fact we are a purple state.

Second. It’s our state law. Eat it. Third. It’s tradition. It has nothing to do with selfishness it has everything to do we are a clear representative of the population of America. We have high voter turn out and because Nh is a small state we learn and can interact with the candidates.

You’re not a native and clearly subscribe to racist identify politics, bigot…you have no fucking argument

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asuds t1_iz58c84 wrote

Speaking as Mayflower material I am prepared to dismiss the not native claim. Although I guess I could have been of Winnipesaukee heritage.

However to claim NH is representative is pretty out of touch. Sure race is one factor that happen imho to be still fairly material, and 92.8% white doesn’t cut it there. But by other measures as well, such as age:

  • almost 20% less of the population is under 18 than the us as a whole and
  • almost 15% more of the population is over 65

to just give one example. It’s too bad you have no ability to think objectively, but having seen you around I continue to be unsurprised.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz6nqf6 wrote

So the majority of the population reflects the greater population and your marginalization of young and old is completely fucking meaningless. At 18 you’re a full citizen. Period.

Furthermore your racist identity politics is exactly that, racist. So fuck off bigot.

Oh and give me your example…I’m still waiting for a coherent argument other than race base politics and asinine ageism.

What a fucking clown

Oh and yeah you dismiss the not native because you’re not one - Massachusetts welcomes you

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asuds t1_iz6rbum wrote

Don’t cry because the data doesn’t show what you want. Life will still go on even after you admit you are wrong.

You might also want to sharpen up your thinking skills as you kind of jump around making wild assertions that I am assuming you think probe something instead of making you look unhinged.

And to pretend that there could be no possible difference in outlook based on age or (unfortunately) race is to choose to be willfully blind to both the needs and hurts of others. But again, I wouldn’t expect any more from you. Unlike “real” Americans.

But to play the game and answer your questions, yes, a demographic profile coming closer to the overall demographic profile of the country “reflects” the country better.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz6sydh wrote

You haven’t produced any data so nobody is crying here clown. I didn’t even bother to read the rest of your bullshit

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asuds t1_iz6v2im wrote

Um… did you read my other comment to you or is it memory issues or just willful nattering? Data is simple to get, try the US census:

US overall: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045221

and if you have any capabilities you’ll be able to take it from there.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz72ojs wrote

Yeah and the data has nothing to do with the topic. It’s a strawman argument you’re attempting to produce and that’s why I’m dismissing it because it’s asinine just like your position

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asuds t1_iz7k1cs wrote

Just to be clear you are saying the demographic data has nothing to do with the argument that the demographics of NH is different than the demographics of the overall US of A.

Ok buddy. You gotta do you I suppose.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz7npwg wrote

Such as asinine statements; strawman stupidity when that’s not what I’m saying. Idiotic racist.

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asuds t1_iz7tg7i wrote

Nothing you say has any merit you jaywalking pedophile.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz841ia wrote

Problem is you have no evidence and simply projecting. You’re argument is racist, you fucking racist

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asuds t1_iz94zqi wrote

Nope. Just trying to wake up the sheeple to how terrible you are.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz97clp wrote

But as you say they are sheeple ergo you’re wasting your time and there is no one else. Asinine.

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asuds t1_iz998y3 wrote

Yes you are an ass. We agree.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz9hotb wrote

There is no we..Jesus you’re an idiot

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asuds t1_iz9ptnq wrote

Sure thing little buckaroo! Have fun and be sure to say hello to your mother for me!

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AuthorSnow t1_izakkjc wrote

My mother is dead. Your mother still does your laundry and blows strangers for crack. All you do is project. Fucking clown

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asuds t1_izbxdbm wrote

Sure thing champ! Hopefully you’ll make the JV squad one day.

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AuthorSnow t1_izc2dmg wrote

Only a child would care about such things - like you. You’re a fucking idiot kid. Nobody thinks of hs unless hs is still present in recent memory. You’re a disappointment to your parents

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asuds t1_izc362a wrote

Sure thing little fellow! Don’t be intimidated on your first day!

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AuthorSnow t1_izc4f7r wrote

Your just projecting. Nothing you’re saying makes sense. God you’re absolutely a fucking idiot

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asuds t1_izc86fc wrote

The more you repeat yourself the closer to godhood you are!

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AuthorSnow t1_izcbcc8 wrote

I’m only repeating myself because you’re an idiot

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asuds t1_izcvvzl wrote

Hardly little pardner. But hey, I don’t mind too much it’s easy to love folly in a child.

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AuthorSnow t1_izde45o wrote

Yeah you do live children for sure. You’ve made that clear, pedo

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asuds t1_izeyjsv wrote

One day an original thought will slowly ascend from your bowels to your brain.

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AuthorSnow t1_izeyvr6 wrote

No. Nothing you say matters

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asuds t1_izfuehk wrote

Sure thing lil'buddy. Keep on dreaming the dream!

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AuthorSnow t1_izfvkl8 wrote

It’s not a dream. It’s a simple fact that nothing you say matters

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TarantinoFan23 t1_iz56bwd wrote

Traditions are dumb. NH is not average.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz582sj wrote

Traditions are necessary and yes nh is average

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asuds t1_iz61dsq wrote

The data says otherwise but why let facts get in the way of any of your wishful thinking.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz6ndio wrote

You literally said nothing - explain

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asuds t1_iz6qi13 wrote

Didn’t we already go through this? I’ve backed up the comment. NH skews among other things older and much whiter than “average” America.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz6stsh wrote

No. We haven’t gone over anything. By your oem omission the majority of residents of NH reflect the grater population. You’re only premise is a racist one, bigot

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asuds t1_iz6urk8 wrote

You are so ridiculous, I can’t tell if it’s parody or just utter confusion on your part.

Your argument is the majority of people in Nh are what? white (93%) and the majority of people in the United States are white (75%) ergo NH “reflects” the population of the US. And that’s your only criteria? You have lost touch lil’buddy.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz72gcw wrote

No. You’re a bigot. You have no argument and here comes the classic bullshit insults because you have no arguments outside being a racist, racist

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asuds t1_iz7judd wrote

You are a fool. The obvious argument I have consistently made is that the demographics of NH have some material differences from the demographics of the US across several dimensions.

It is baffling that you can not comprehend such a simple concept but I guess people have their limits.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz7nljh wrote

Sure, racist

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asuds t1_iz7tcr9 wrote

Ok facist pedophile.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz83z73 wrote

So now you’re projecting with your racist propaganda nonsense. Classic.

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asuds t1_iz94xgc wrote

Nope. Just calling it like everyone sees it.

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AuthorSnow t1_iz97a3z wrote

Classic narcissist as you only speak for yourself. Racist, pedo and narcissist. You must be 20 and if you’re not you’re even more pathetic than I imagined

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asuds t1_iz996w7 wrote

Typical thread with ArthurSnow:

Arthur: assertion nh is average.

me: here is more data showing how it deviates the average.

Arthur: refuse to think also you are racist trash

me: reiterate and expand in data

Arthur: nah nah nah plus you have no data. repeat racist

me: you are a twat

Arthur: see name calling!

Classic brain dead fool. It’s sad that lil’buckaroos like him spoil our country’s potential for greatness…

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AuthorSnow t1_iz9hmxw wrote

Lol. You mad because I don’t buy into your racism. What a clown

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asuds t1_iz9pn1g wrote

Yup. NH being among other things older than the US overall is classic “replacement theory” little champ!

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AuthorSnow t1_izakfvi wrote

You’re delusional and agist, bigot

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asuds t1_izbxloq wrote

I love how every time you are presented with any fact or data you disassemble. Is that you in disguise Winter Rewind? Classic lump head behavior.

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AuthorSnow t1_izc2gdv wrote

You haven’t provided any data that negates the original point…fucking idiot

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asuds t1_izc3i9n wrote

Except I have. I guess I am overestimating your cognitive abilities. For that I apologize.

You do understand that demographic data on say, age, from say, the US Census, would in fact you show that NH skews differently than the US overall. And there are differences in other dimensions as well.

Show this to a trusted adult and they can explain it to you.

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AuthorSnow t1_izc4l36 wrote

No. You’ve only posted “data” that has nothing to do with the original point and simply insisting. You can say it’s raining all day when it’s clearly isn’t. Still doesn’t make it true. Fucking fantasy land this one

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asuds t1_izc84j3 wrote

“Data” is correct. And yes it definitely is relevant as to whether or not NH is representative of the United States. So sad you can’t see beyond your… obstinance? Not sure if it’s your lack of capability to understand, or an iron will to never learn anything.

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AuthorSnow t1_izcba3o wrote

Again, no

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asuds t1_izcvseb wrote

Again- no actual refutation. But cool, didn’t expect you were capable of more.

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AuthorSnow t1_izde37b wrote

It’s been refuted multiple times. I don’t need to refute what’s already been refuted, bigot

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asuds t1_izeyfnc wrote

I declare REFUTATION!

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AuthorSnow t1_izeysen wrote

But there is nothing to refute because the data is irrelevant rewarding this topic

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asuds t1_izfucbk wrote

Sure thing lil'buddy! Keep on dreaming the dream!

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