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K_Gal14 t1_it0phhr wrote

I think their kid was posting on here to help with the investigation a few months ago. If it was and you are still out there I hope you get justice and it brings you peace. I think of you often.

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EvergreenRuby t1_it1gdgu wrote

Poor couple. I hope their kids are ok. This is so sad.

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occasional_cynic t1_it1y9tt wrote

One of their kids posted here asking for the public's help a while back. Cannot imagine losing both your parents in such a senseless way.

Credit to law enforcement for tracking him down if he is guilty.

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Peeeculiar t1_it0fgli wrote

Here’s to justice being served. That poor couple.

It will be interesting to hear testimony-level-detail on how the heck they tracked Corporal Clegg down and tied him to this case.

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kathryn13 t1_it0yice wrote

That was the homeless guy that killed a Manchester resident on the rail trail at Nutt's Pond in Manchester.

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kathryn13 t1_it1z01q wrote

I haven't read that the Concord couple killer was ever previously caught. They arrested him in South Burlington and he's been in jail since.

The guy that stabbed the Manchester resident at Nutt's Pond was on PR bail release after stabbing someone else. According to the UL article he was twice arrested and released. My understanding part of the problem Manchester is facing with homeless is because the jail for the county is located here. So if a suspect is arrested in Nashua, they get brought to valley street jail in Manch. When they get PR bail, they get released onto the Manchester streets - they don't get returned to Nashua. This goes for all the towns in Hillsborough county. So if Amherst has a homeless person, they could arrest them, send them to jail on bs charges, when they get released, they get stuck in Manchester unless they have a way to get themselves back to Amherst. It's become a great way for Hillsborough towns to mitigate their own homeless residents. The Nutt's Pond murderer entered NH in Nashua, arrested in Nashua, released to the streets of Manchester. The dude clearly needs some mental health services and it's a shame he can't get them while he's in jail.

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xforce4life t1_it28f58 wrote

Starting to think what happen is the reids came across his campsite and He killed them because he was trying to hide

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occasional_cynic t1_it32vfb wrote

Either that or he was in the middle of a drug deal and panicked. But we will have to wait for the grand jury report.

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danlson381 t1_it0j94k wrote

Now let’s charge the scum bag responsible for the death of Harmony Montgomery!!!!

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False_Maintenance124 t1_it1n30h wrote

Charging people with crimes usually comes when there is enough evidence to prove that the person being charged committed the crime. If Harmony's killer has yet to be arrested, it typically means that there isn't enough evidence to bring to court to ensure a conviction.

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littleirishmaid t1_it0mgei wrote

They better make sure they have enough evidence to keep him in for a verrry long time.

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nixstyx t1_it20otx wrote

Hope I'm wrong but I worry they rushed to charge him. The timing of the arrest coincides with a court decision that he couldn't be held longer on bail for another case.

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The_Road_is_Calling t1_it22o4v wrote

He was also trying to flee the country, so I’m sure that played a part in the timing of the arrest.

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nixstyx t1_it22u6y wrote

Yes, I don't think it was the wrong move, I just hope they have what they need to put him away.

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xforce4life t1_it3n0sx wrote

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/jun/26/suspect-in-fatal-stabbing-of-manito-tap-house-empl/

Was this same guy

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A-Do-Gooder OP t1_it3og06 wrote

Absolutely appalling. How are people who are involved in violent crimes free to continue to commit crimes? There was another case where an elderly man walking in the trails was stabbed to death in Manchester just a few months ago. The suspect in that case also has a history of violence.

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asuds t1_it0hpjg wrote

There was scuttlebutt that this was related to some white supremest types that used those woods. I wonder if this will turn out to be correct or if it was just robbery or madness.

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itsMalarky t1_it114rh wrote

I don't think that was true. Those woods are very heavily trafficked. Doubtful an organized group used them.

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mrplow3 t1_it1zhjz wrote

Of course it’s not true. Just more fanfic from delusional leftists that see a racist behind every corner. This may shock you to know, but most people are not racist 😮

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asuds t1_it20r53 wrote

I didn’t realize you knew all the details. That’s a time saver!

So who exactly is Logan Lever Clegg, and what precisely happened?

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itsMalarky t1_it54i7g wrote

not sure if you're responding to me or mr. plow. but jumping to conclusions about a white supremacist group training in the middle of concord within 2 miles of a middle school is....irresponsible at best.

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itsMalarky t1_it54cam wrote

Or maybe we don't make EVERY FUCKING THING into a "left" vs "right" issue.

jesus fucking christ, man

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Icy_Brother_1 t1_it1vi91 wrote

Again. #guncontrolnow.

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iamthetruth123 t1_it22fga wrote

New Hampshire is number 13 in guns per Capita and 49th in violent crime. Your stance is laughable.

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[deleted] t1_it2md6c wrote

NNE has plenty of guns and almost no crime. Fuck off

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Icy_Brother_1 t1_it30wns wrote

Until it happens and then stupid ignorant like you say " thoughts and prayers ". I am not worry is beginning to happen. The same was said about pot that it was never gonna be legalized and now just a few states hasn't legalized it yet. The only thing is needed is for all the baby boomers to die. That can not happen fast enough if you ask me.

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Berneraccountbuddy t1_it3brw3 wrote

Have you been ignoring the recent Supreme Court decision regarding firearms and the ramifications it has had on state gun control laws? Seems like you have.

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Icy_Brother_1 t1_it3faq1 wrote

Have you heard about an executive order?? Seem like haven't. That is exactly what happened. I am baffled how here you all love your guns more than your own kids. Priorities. Everyone has their own I guess. I feel sorry for your loved ones.

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Reubachi t1_it3ja9y wrote

I’m of the same beliefs you are in terms of gun control. but no need to be so insulting to a person politely debating and offering his/her insight.

You make the rest of us look bad by telling people to die because they said a word you disagree with online.

I’ll try to address one of your points. How does pot legalization have anything to do with gun crime statistics between different states? Do you also want our income to be taxed like mass/Maine?

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Icy_Brother_1 t1_it3jjek wrote

Totally agreed. However If because I said what I think the first thing they call me is a bitch and a morron. I don't care who it helps I am gonna react.

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Berneraccountbuddy t1_it42bqr wrote

My kid is more likely to be injured in an accident on the way to school vs a school shooter, but thanks for being the one person who dared to think about the children, hero.

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Icy_Brother_1 t1_it44kdv wrote

Ma'am. But still is a possibility and only here in the USA for the love to guns. Is just stupid to put anyone's life in danger because of it. Specially kids. It is anti natural not wanting to protect your kid. Is a diservice to them.

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Berneraccountbuddy t1_it45rdw wrote

Gun laws are just words on paper that good people choose to be limited by. No bad people were ever stopped by a law. You can 3D print a gun easily with a $250 3D printer. I don't know what you think the plan is for gun control but it will continue to fail, just as it always has. If you had a magic button to take away every gun today there would be a black market for them tomorrow.

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Icy_Brother_1 t1_it4765c wrote

Ma'am. For starters not only good ppl like guns and not only bad ppl likes them either. I do understand that you might need them to hunt or protection. But do you need an assault riffle, silencer and 10 - 15 guns?

Gun laws actually have helped a lot of countries like Australia, Sweden, France, Spain, England, many countries in south and central america.

You are right laws will not stop bad guys to get them but it will be much harder and more expensive and a depressed teenager won't be able to access them for example. There will be way way more expensive. For example a gun in Australia on the black market is about 36K. Do you think is so easy to get them? Or everyone has 10 guns of course not.

The problem is the obsession and how easy are to get them here as well as the lack of retaliation for irresponsible parents. If your kid killed himself by mistake with your gun bc you didn't put it in a safe place you should go to jail.

A gun is a lethal weapon not a Toy and this country does not see it as such.

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Kv603 t1_it9eo4e wrote

> Have you heard about an executive order??

Executive orders don't work that way, if they did Obama would've done it.

All the president can do with EO/EA is to move around budget money and redirect the priorities of agencies in enforcing (or not enforcing) existing laws, or otherwise execute on existing statutory powers.

An executive order cannot make new law.

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hitmannumber862 t1_it1zdmr wrote

Gun control will totally stop premeditated murder. Because before guns, murder didn't exist.

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Archie_Bunker_BB t1_it20f2z wrote

Nope, nothing will stop gun murders, why even try? Hey, it's just children and innocent people like this.

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Icy_Brother_1 t1_it24lle wrote

Yes it would it worked in EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY AROUND THE WORLD!!!

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Iamthetruth124 t1_it26xew wrote

Show me another country that's ever had 110 guns per 100 people, second place is like 50 per 100.

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Archie_Bunker_BB t1_it3u03o wrote

Ok, I get your point. First, its all the democrats fault and more guns and less gun regulation is the answer. Second, kids and large crowds of people, people in office's, road rage victims, DV victims, and any other unfairly target citizen who didnt shoot back - fuck 'em. They should have been packing and/or good at shootouts

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Archie_Bunker_BB t1_it3z3rp wrote

If only there were more people with guns, to save people from a maniac with guns!!!! Darnit, always one hero away from saving a bunch of elementary school kids from getting FUCKING MURDERED!!! ...well, we'll get 'em next time.

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Archie_Bunker_BB t1_it42ivp wrote

uh-oh, its the slippery slope argument!

We're talking about gun murders here, keep up! We have to protect our children and innocent people from gun violence. Your suggestion is, we cant because people will use knives?!?! I dont give a shit, stop the fucking gun murders then we can deal with knives. You think people arent using knives now? You are acting like criminals having to use knives is somehow worse. Put yourself in the position of this couple, would you rather your attacker have a gun or a knife?

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asuds t1_it5innm wrote

You should look at per-capita murder rates. Total number is a stupid metric as it depends on the total population.

  • The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that afflicts Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.

  • In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.

  • 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem

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asuds t1_it94ytv wrote

You are still only looking at large population centers - at that scale they will have the largest concentrations of lower income residents (the primary determinant). However, if you go to smaller groupings, like the county level it changes again (unfortunately I only have this data from 2017).

  1. ORLEANS PARISH, LOUISIANA
    Homicide rate: 43 homicides per 100,000 people
    Median household income: $36,792
    New Orleans crime index: 6 out of 100

Orleans Parish, while the smallest parish by land area in Louisiana, has the highest homicide rate not only in the state but in the country. Orleans Parish is home to almost 400,000 people and includes New Orleans, the largest city in the state. New Orleans accounts for the majority of the homicides in this county, and in a metro to metro area comparison, it has a higher homicide rate than Chicago. Just 85 percent of Orleans Parish residents have a high school diploma, lower than the national average of 88 percent. 27 percent of county residents live in poverty.
2. COAHOMA COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI
Homicide rate: 37 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household income: $28,851
Clarksdale crime index: 2 out of 100

Cahoma County is one of two counties from Mississippi to make the top 10. Even as a small county with just over 25,000 residents, Cahoma County is no stranger to violent crime. The county seat of Clarksdale had over 150 violent crimes in 2015, and with a population of about 16,000; that means almost 1 violent crime for every 100 residents. 35 percent of residents of Clarksdale live below the poverty line, and 1 in 5 residents are not high school graduates.
3. PHILLIPS COUNTY, ARKANSAS
Homicide rate: 34 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household income: $26,844
Helena-West Helena crime index: 2 out of 100

Phillips County is another rural county to make this list, with a population of just under 22,000. The county seat is Helena-West Helena. Neighborhood Scout gives Helena-West Helena a crime index of just 2 out of 100, thanks in large part to 166 violent crimes in a population of just over 11,000. In addition to having the lowest median household income on this list, just 77.1 percent Helena-West Helena have a high school diploma, also lowest among these cities.
4. ST. LOUIS CITY, MISSOURI (TIE)
Homicide rate: 33 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household income: $35,599
St. Louis crime index: 1 out of 100
The city of St. Louis, which is an independent city and doesn’t fall within any county, has one of the highest rates of murder in the nation. While ranking fourth on this list, St. Louis’ murder rate has actually skyrocketed over the past few years, topping the 50 mark in 2014 and 2015. It is the only city on this list with a crime index of one, the second lowest score among this top 10. Just 84 percent of St. Louis residents have a high school diploma, and over 27 percent live below the poverty line.
4. BALTIMORE CITY, MARYLAND (TIE)
Homicide rate: 33 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household income: $42,241
Baltimore crime index: 2 out of 100
Baltimore is the largest independent city in the country with over 620,000 residents, and like St. Louis, it has a historically high murder rate. After a period from 2007-2014 where total murders were in the 200s, Baltimore has gone over the 300 murder mark each of the last two years and is on pace to approach similar numbers in 2017. Just 82.5 percent of residents have a high school diploma, and almost a quarter live in poverty. The tension between residents and police reached a boiling point in 2015, after the death of Freddie Gray. Peaceful protests turned into a full-blown riot as police officers were pelted with rocks. Over the course of subsequent riots, over 20 police officers were injured, at least 250 arrests were made and nearly 300 businesses were damaged.
6. PETERSBURG CITY, VIRGINIA
Homicide rate: 32 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household income: $31,798
Petersburg crime index: 10 out of 100
Petersburg is an independent town with a population just over 30,000, making it the smallest independent city on the list. Just 77.9 percent of residents have a high school diploma in Petersburg, and 28 percent of residents live in poverty. Petersburg also has a high rate of property crime, and their unemployment rate has stayed above the national average since 2001.
7. MACON COUNTY, ALABAMA (TIE)
Homicide rate: 27 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household income of county seat: $30,738
Tuskegee crime index: 3 out of 100
Macon County is another rural area to make this list with a population just over 21,00 and the first of two Alabama counties in the top 10. In recent years, the unemployment rate has been well above the national average, including a high mark of 18.9 percent unemployment in January of 2010, when the national rate was 10.6. While the county has an 89 percent high school graduation rate, the median household income is just $30,738 in the county - which puts 25.9 percent of residents below the poverty line. In the county seat of Tuskegee, the odds of being a victim of all violent crime are 1 in 97.
7. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (TIE)
Homicide rate: 27 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household income: $70,848
District of Columbia crime iIndex: 3 out of 100
The nation’s capital is also a hub for murder, and in the early ‘90s was known as the murder capital of the nation. D.C. has the highest population of any city or county on this list at almost 700,000 people. In May of 2015, Darron Wint made national headlines after he kidnapped the Savopoulos family and their housekeeper in their home. Wint held the family captive for about 18 hours, extorted $40,000, then killed the family before setting fire to the home. Wint is still awaiting trial, scheduled for September 2018.

Washington is easily the most affluent city on this list, with just 18 percent of residents living in poverty and the only city with a median household income above the national average. However, their unemployment rate is higher than the national average and the chances of being a victim of a violent crime are 1 in 79.
9. WASHINGTON COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI (TIE)
Homicide rate: 25 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household income of county seat: $29,144
Greenville crime index: 2 out of 100
Washington County is home to over 50,000 people. Washington County suffers from consistently high unemployment rates, hovering between 8 and 18 percent since 2008. Over one-third of residents live in poverty in the county seat of Greenville and just 78.7 residents have a high school diploma. Greenville in recent decades has seen a rise in gang activity, much of it coming by way of Chicago.
9. DALLAS COUNTY, ALABAMA (TIE)
Homicide rate: 25 homicides per 100,000 people
Median household iIncome: $27,306
Selma crime index: 0 out of 100
Dallas County has a long history of violence, and in recent years, the area has encountered a spike in gang-related violence in some of the county’s poorest communities. The median income of Dallas County is the second lowest on this list. The unemployment rate of Dallas County is among the worst on this list, reaching over 22 percent just after the start of the great recession and rarely falling below 9 percent since. The crime index of zero makes the county seat of Selma the most dangerous city for overall crime on this list.

These rankings show that homicide can affect areas both rural and urban, and LEOs, as well as other first responders around the country, have to face these situations on a daily basis.

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asuds t1_it9s6xu wrote

Your basic premise is still unsupported or, rather, correlation is not causation.

Ergo, the statement: “Republicans are utterly incapable or managing cities of any size or complexity due to their absolute buffoonery.” is also supported by similar data!

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Icy_Brother_1 t1_it23yfd wrote

It would be harder and more expensive to get. Is common sense. Like australia or any other country in the world. But of course how could you know that.

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