Mestewart3 t1_j9intie wrote on February 22, 2023 at 6:15 AM

Reply to comment by HickRarrison in Pixar head Pete Docter on why Lightyear failed by JannTosh17

The movie was bad. Because it was.

It's a boiler plate premise that has been done to death. "What? The villain of the time travel story is an older, alternate version of the hero? Le Gasp!".

The characters were shallow.

The 'message' was shoehorned in and had basically nothing to do with anything in the main plot.

The pacing dragged.

It was a poorly put-together movie.

HickRarrison t1_j9ionrb wrote on February 22, 2023 at 6:24 AM

The premise they advertised was "in-universe Toy Story movie." Basically the movie that inspired Andy to buy Buzz Lightyear toys, except there was no Andy and no toys. It's not incorrect to say kids won't connect with that.

Besides, do you really expect the guy in charge of Pixar to say "our movie was bad, sorry everyone"?

Mestewart3 t1_j9iow35 wrote on February 22, 2023 at 6:27 AM

I'd prefer if he didn't try to blame it on the audience being dumb.

paulteegoldman t1_j9ip1fr wrote on February 22, 2023 at 6:29 AM

It couldn’t have been that bad. It has 74% critic rating and 84% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Seems more mediocre than outright bad

Mestewart3 t1_j9iquwy wrote on February 22, 2023 at 6:50 AM

It certainly wasn't good enough to get butts in seats.

The movie bombed, and it didn't do so because it was too challenging. Pixar made their name doing that shit. There is no way that Lightyear was a more challenging film than Up for example.

paulteegoldman t1_j9isxkn wrote on February 22, 2023 at 7:15 AM

Box office success doesn’t correlate with quality. Plenty of mediocre to good movies have bombed. You’re thinking in capitalistic terms