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OnlyMamaKnows t1_j9ibu5d wrote

The charm of Buzz is a toy who thinks he's a space hero; not in a real space hero. Plus, the plot was pretty damn convoluted for a kids movie.

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Maskedcrusader94 t1_j9icwj8 wrote

I had to arduously attempt to explain the concept of time dilation to my 6 year old sister with little success since I didnt really understand it myself.

That being said I thought the movie was cool, but it looked like they couldnt figure out what they wanted it to be, so it probably won't stand out in my memory.

I think they could have gone the more expected route and done a lot better.

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OnlyMamaKnows t1_j9idsld wrote

My kids (7 & 5) were pretty lost but liked the robot cat. They've never asked to watch it again which is rare.

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Clash_onthe_Can t1_j9ioom8 wrote

This is telling. My nieces are the same age and any movie they like they will watch at least 3-4 times.

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skarros t1_j9iqhc1 wrote

Well, it is Einstein‘s relativity theory. Who does understand that really? Explaining it to a six year old seems like a fun challenge though.

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Relative-Ad-87 t1_j9iqv2b wrote

Easy. Time = distance + speed. Or something

It's all relative...

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_Gemini_Dream_ t1_j9ieqk3 wrote

i mostly agree, at least in the current context, but I think the idea of "Buzz as space hero" could totally have worked... 20+ years ago. Kids who watched Toy Story in the 1990s loved Buzz as an actual toy. It was a HUGE success in toy stores and spawned a successful cartoon too. The official Toy Story 2 video game was even specifically marketed as a Buzz Lightyear game, "Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear to the Rescue".

They missed their window.

A Pixar produced Buzz film in the late 90s or early 00s would have been gigantic.

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boot2skull t1_j9ipfgd wrote

I think you can have the serious Buzz or source material Buzz, but it had to be first, not the other way around. We love toy Buzz. We want toy Buzz. We want Buzz and Woody together. I don’t think we’re interested in source material Buzz now that we’ve had Toy Buzz. Besides, did Lightyear even match the tone of what we imagine the source material to be like to create a toy like Buzz?

Seems like a Star Wars problem, where you let the IP live in our heads too long, then add to it. You are going to have to be perfect to make most of the fans happy, and even then, not everyone will be happy. You can gauge how old a person is by how offended they are by each trilogy.

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Flatworm-Euphoric t1_j9j9wxm wrote

Toy Story 2 was made in ‘99 against Pixar’s wishes (Eisner would’ve exercised option for Disney to animate a straight to VHS sequel).

Just to frame your timeline. ‘90s really wasn’t a possibility.

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BadBoyJH t1_j9ioe45 wrote

>The charm of Buzz is a toy who thinks he's a space hero; not in a real space hero.

Is it? I loved the Buzz Lightyear TV show as a kid, and it was presumably the TV show they would have had in the Pixar Universe featuring Buzz Lightyear, and not about the toy. That "charm" worked just fine for me then.

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braundiggity t1_j9ijhyo wrote

The plot is pretty damn convoluted for an adult movie.

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Ah_Q t1_j9imq0i wrote

I wanted to like the movie, but it was just ... boring.

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Auran82 t1_j9iqjr8 wrote

In my opinion, the plot is too complex for a kids movie, but the actual writing is way too toddler level for most adults to enjoy. Most of the time the resolution for any issues they came across (that were almost always caused by someone doing something dumb) were basically Paw Patrol level.

And I mean seriously, if Andy had watched that movie Woody would have been riding around on a Sox the Cat toy.

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AyBruhBee t1_j9ijmb1 wrote

Was he actually a space hero in Lightyear? The whole movie is a blur but doesnt he just give up and fight himself? And then gets rewarded for some reason

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securitywyrm t1_j9iq6bh wrote

A thought for a better movie

It's a movie about the actors FILMING the movie of Buzz Lightyear, a kinda stock childrens cartoon fare of the 80s. However the Buzz actor is a "method actor" and gets too much of an ego, tensions flare, and people have to pull together and have some heart to heart moments to get the movie finished, "because it's not about us, it's about the kids who will be inspired by it."

And then after-credits scene of adult Andy working at NASA

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contaygious t1_j9ipla8 wrote

I still don't understand frozen 2 myself but my daughter seems to get it lol

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