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HoraceKirkman t1_ja9k9nm wrote

Drunken Master II was the last GREAT Jackie movie - Rumble in the Bronx was the beginning of the end. Best Jackies:

Project A, parts I and II
Police Story I-III
Dragon Lord
Dragons Forever (a personal fave because it's got the 3 brothers in it)
Drunken Master I & II

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BoatsnGoals1 t1_ja9vic2 wrote

> Rumble in the Bronx was the beginning of the end.

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StreetMysticCosmic t1_jaax7zy wrote

Yeah this is slander. Rumble in the Bronx is fucking stupid but in the same way that Road House, Point Break, Bloodsport, Over the Top, and Lethal Weapon are stupid. By which I mean, in the fucking awesome way.

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HoraceKirkman t1_jab5xov wrote

Hey, I did say "beginning". It's fun, just not as good as his best 80s stuff. Also, if you want "awesomely dumb" then you want the Asian Hawk Indiana Jones ripoff movies (Armor of God) or maybe Twin Dragons.

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No_Song_Orpheus t1_jabjtvk wrote

Ppint Break and Lethal Weapon do not belong on any list of things that are stupid. Both are legitimately good.

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boyd_duzshesuck t1_jaane8y wrote

This man speaks the truth - I really wonder how many people here actually watched JC's pre-Hollywood output.

I would even go farther even Drunken Master II was a bit iffy. I mean, the Andy Lau story went nowhere, Jackie Chan being clearly too old for the role he was playing, and the strange thing with Anita Mui being his...stepmom.

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HoraceKirkman t1_jab96pd wrote

If (a) Jackie is singing the credits song, and (b) Jackie is nearly dying in the outtakes at the end of the movie then you know you just had a good JC experience.

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Ebbemonster OP t1_jaavuqp wrote

I think that in pre-Hollywood Jackie had many of his best single moments because of his insane physicality, but he for sure didn't have his best overall movies. I have watched most of his movies with Sammo Hung and Yuen Biao, and thought they were too silly, and took away from Jackie's stunts to leave room for the less interesting guys. I have watched most of his historical movies, and just don't care much about all that, I want insane stunts. In some of his first solo movies he used to have awesome training montages, like in "Snake in the Eagle's Shadow", "Drunken Master" and "The Young Master. But much of those movies were just Jackie goofing around acting overly silly on bad fake-looking sets. The early stuff isn't always automatically the best.

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HoraceKirkman t1_jab6fem wrote

Snake in Eagle's Shadow is the weakest of the three you mentioned. I have a soft spot for the "you killed my master so now I must grow up fast" movies like Young Master, Drunken Master, Dragon Lord et al, but he really put it together in the Project A and Police Story movies. Plus - young Maggie Cheung and Michelle Yeoh!

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HoraceKirkman t1_jab6t21 wrote

How can you say Yuen Biao and Sammo are "less interesting"? Now, if we're talking "Winners and Sinners" or "Lucky Stars" movies, I agree - too little Jackie, too much lame humor.

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Ebbemonster OP t1_jaauh26 wrote

It was the end of his Hong Kong era, and the beginning of his Hollywood era. I love a bunch of his Hollywood movies:

Rush Hour 1 + 2
Shanghai Noon + Knights
Mr Nice Guy
Who Am I?
Rumble in the Bronx.

But before he also nailed it
The Legend of Drunken Master
SuperCop
Twin Dragons
Armour of God 1 + 2
Police Story 1 + 2

I wasn't the biggest fan of his earliest stuff with the trio and Project A, but I did love "Wheels on Meals".

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HoraceKirkman t1_jab5oxx wrote

It's always great when he's working with both Yuen Biao and Sammo Hung, so Wheels on Meals, Dragons Forever, Project A.

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