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GreenTunicKirk t1_jdcnoxv wrote

I understand why 902 would be willing to host the event and even support the efforts - as it would mean a direct increase in business due to their proximity to the park. For sure, it makes total sense.

HOWEVER - it is in direct opposition with what their CURRENT community patrons value and want. I've given lots of money to 902 over the years, and this is honestly really upsetting to me to see them hosting this event. Paul Fireman is NOT a "people's park" person, it is a label designed to dupe people into support. I hope u/BrewedInJerseyCity understands that they can't just hide behind "We're just hosting! We don't support!" excuse... Dingbatz in Clifton got torn a new one and lost a lot of business as a result of having a nazi metal band perform. They used the same sort of excuse too...

I won't be boycotting the brewery as that is not consistent with supporting local business, but I will be very critical of them for this. I hope NO ONE comes out to that event, and if they do, it's to protest the event.

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EDIT: Looks like they're doubling down on their defense and saying we are "assaulting/internet bullying" ... so there goes that. There's a few other breweries in the area I really like: Defiant Brewery & BBQ is the furthest in Pearl River NY, but damn good food. Departed Soles in downtown is a tiny but mighty, and Bolero in Secaucus has some very creative brews.

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yethica t1_jdcyhfb wrote

The whole point of a boycott is to hurt the business to show them that doing things against the community needs isn't ok. You can support other local businesses. Being critical, frankly, does a whole lot of nothing. Boycott them. Hit them in the wallet, where it hurts.

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sutisuc t1_jdd5rp8 wrote

Yup it’s a tried and true method of protest for a reason.

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doglywolf t1_jde4qp3 wrote

except when their is social media - they already acknowledged they did no digging into the org , looks good at face value - booked it for that and regret it but can not cancel the event due to agreements .

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They know they fucked up at this point and i genuinely believe they regret it

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GreenTunicKirk t1_jdd78ab wrote

I don't think a boycott of 902 would be effective in this situation, as it really distracts from the real issue which is the park. I am *really* trying to be fair to 902 and their position of neutrality, regardless of my own opinion, and if it comes to a point that I stop giving 902 business then so be it.

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mcmuffin103 t1_jdi4grr wrote

I understand wanting to be fair to them, and it sucks, but associating with this sort of thing that is actively attempting to damage your community, then blaming everyone else for being upset, is the issue. That’s what they have been doing with this situation. Boycotting businesses associated with this group shows others to not risk doing so in the future. That’s how you show the guy he isn’t welcome

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AccountantOfFraud t1_jdd0v6d wrote

> Dingbatz in Clifton got torn a new one and lost a lot of business as a result of having a nazi metal band perform.

Dawg holy shit. They should've blasted that Dead Kennedys song at them.

I agree with your entire post. I like them more than Departed Soles (although I do love that Southward Ale) but I think I'm definitely going to give Departed Soles more of my business in the short-term.

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mcmuffin103 t1_jdd0fp5 wrote

Boycott them otherwise you’re using a similarly worthless excuse.

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doglywolf t1_jde3yb2 wrote

They addressed it on twitter - they did Zero Research into the org. Thought it was a legit good org trying to improve the park.. i mean the entire point of the org it to get the community to support it at face value ...lets be honest the average citizen and person doesn't dig much deeper then face value. I mean lets cut them a bit of a brake and let this be a lesson to them to check on who they are allowing to have events at their space.

Honestly if it wasn't for reddit and only seeing the media / propaganda i might think they weren't so bad if not of the giant venue in the middle at least.

Ive meet them a few times - talked to them when it was slow the seem like good people that made an honest / lazy mistake .

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Side note if your willing to drive all the way to Defiant - you might want to check out Carton its less then an hour from JC. Edit* Except in the peak of beach season btw since its in that general direction . But this time of year is AWESOME to go to it .

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