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SupOrSalad t1_j6d967x wrote

I bought these after Sean olive posted the graph of the ones he bought, but mine sounded different than what he graphed. More bloated and peaky. When I measured mine they graphed like this

https://suporsalad.squig.link/?share=Harman_IEM_Target,JBL_Endurance_Run

I wonder if there's some variation that isn't clear on the packaging or something

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MayaTL t1_j6dvzc4 wrote

Mines measure quite similarly to yours (711 clone coupler as well), and also sound like ass.

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Demand-Jaded t1_j6deawy wrote

What a shame. I almost bought them because of the Sean Olive Amazon review and how close they were to the Harman target.

Could unit variation be that big? or are Sean Olive measurements not that reliable? As I saw Sharur's review of the TUNE230NC that had a 78% predicted preference in Sean Olive's graph but measured very differently in Sharur's rig, more bloated bass and peaky in the treble.

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SupOrSalad t1_j6df76p wrote

I'm not sure. There doesn't seem to be many measurments of it.

Here is HobbyTalk's measurment of it, unfortunately he doesn't have the same Harman target to compare, so this is comparing with the Truthear Zero https://hobbytalk.squig.link/?share=Hobby_Talk_IEM_Preference_2022_Target,JBL_Endurance_Run,Truthear_Zero

Compared to mine with the truthear Zero https://suporsalad.squig.link/?share=Harman_IEM_Target,JBL_Endurance_Run,Truthear_Zero

I wonder if maybe there is a bit of difference with leakage and the coupler. I'm using just the 711 coupler with the metal end for IEMs which is similar to what crinacle uses. I believe Sean olive measured his in a Gras 45CA with the pinna

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hurtyewh OP t1_j6dci1b wrote

That looks very strange to me. I wouldn't have thought any part of the treble goes above Harman and mostly stays 1-2dB below. I listened to many tracks that I often have treble issues with Beat by Tingvall Trio for example or Radha Kaise Na Jale by A.R. Rahman and they're easy to listen to at high volumes.

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SupOrSalad t1_j6dd1u7 wrote

It's worth noting that the 8khz and 16khz peak are common artifacts of the measurement coupler. The Gras version of the coupler has damping to lower those artifacts for measurments

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hurtyewh OP t1_j6de83v wrote

Oh yeah, true. I'll make more comparisons with the other ones since my guess is these are the smoothest by my ear (with the Cadenza, which is just a touch brighter).

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Nosapaw t1_j6dfys8 wrote

Yeah, i honestly was a bit positive on them considering Sean's measurements and some of the feedback, but on more standard squig link rigs, they just seem like a generic undampened DD

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