Yep. They’re basically old open backs converted into cheap closed backs, right? I kinda think about buying modern k240 and iPod to have something slightly better than phone and wireless and something more mobile than pc and wired headphones. But that’s rather in long term. Akg 361/371BT are more prone to bend/break band due to battery and microphone stuck into it. There’s extreme horizontal force on it and only slight peace of metal keeping it in shape. If not the band I would rank them extremely high especially considering audio quality for the price.