Submitted by ReelDeadOne t3_zpp27j in dataisbeautiful
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xsoulfoodx t1_j0twkbt wrote
I appreciate your effort and believe you had a great time testing all those pizza places! Luckily Moncton isn't that big of a town. Now imagine doing something similar in Toronto or Montréal ;)
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0two5x wrote
Yeah man, you'd really have to up your game to 1 or 2 pizza's a week and maybe rule out all the restaurant pizza's and focus specifically on "Pizza places".
buddyleeoo t1_j0txev4 wrote
Callactus faired that well? That picture looks fucked up.
KeepTangoAndFoxtrot t1_j0tygg5 wrote
What's the difference between "texture" and "mouthfeel?" And why aren't "taste" or "presentation" categories?
tinuuuu t1_j0tyrt0 wrote
The inside of your cheeks are very sensitive. It's like the inside of your thighs except with a tongue.
mynameismy111 t1_j0u0eg8 wrote
Cut throat pizza....
You woke up this morning Got yourself a gun, Mama always said you'd be The Chosen One.
She said: You're one in a million You've got to burn to shine, But you were born under a bad sign, With a blue moon in your eyes.
source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/thesopranoslyrics.html
KeepTangoAndFoxtrot t1_j0u1g6o wrote
... I'll be perfectly honest, I don't see how that answers the question, and for whatever reason your use of tongues and thighs in the description makes me a bit uncomfortable. I still don't understand the difference between "texture," aka "the feel, appearance, or consistency of a surface or substance," and "mouthfeel," aka "the physical sensations in the mouth produced by a particular food."
I even googled it and most explanations appear to boil down to "texture is a part of mouthfeel, but mouthfeel is different," and then say nothing else about it. These articles describe "mouthfeel" using words that are just different textures or tastes, like "oily" or "acidic." The Wikipedia entry for "mouthfeel" even described "texture" as being a synonym to "mouthfeel."
As a result of these last 5 or so minutes of research, I will be taking it upon myself to passively crusade against the use of "mouthfeel," as it makes me inexplicably uncomfortable. Some people hate the word "moist," and I now hate the word "mouthfeel." Any time "mouthfeel" comes up from hence forth, I will be interjecting a quick "gross" into the conversation. Thus is my burden and my cross to bear.
Edit: I hope it's clear that my comment is quite sarcastic, especially towards the end. I'm still not super clear what it means, but ultimately it seems to boil down to some combination of taste, weight, and texture.
trail34 t1_j0u1s46 wrote
Love this! It’s making me very hungry.
I’m always curious how people objectively rate things when there are so many candidates. For example early in your testing you might say “man this sauce is amazing. I’m going to give is a 9 out of 10”, but then later you think you might like a bunch of other sauces more and you’ve run out of room on your scale.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0u210m wrote
Haha yup. Its a veggy place, one of our most beloved restaurants, super fresh, seasoned, flavorful, ranks top 1 or 2 on tripadvisor for our city.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0u23vu wrote
Woke up this mooorniiiiing...got yourself a guuuun..
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0u291o wrote
This is true! Lol. And been in Moncton my whole life and I know like 3 Italians.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0u2tn3 wrote
Sadly I think I took a bad photo of that one. Crust was, by my Atlantic, Maritime, French Canadian standards, near perfect. Crispy on bottom but perfectly gooey on the inside and delicious.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0u32hu wrote
So true. At least we were already familiar with maybe 1/3 of the pizzas so that helped. The influential factors that are hard to measure are:
How do we feel? Whats our mood? Are we hungry? Do we feel like pizza?
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0u37vu wrote
Mouthfeel was measured and the data was so incredible that it merits its own seperate mouthfeel post.
tinuuuu t1_j0u3e3i wrote
I will be perfectly honest as well. I have no idea what mouthfeel is. I just know that Charles Boyle is the supreme authority on pizza judging and those are the categories that he chose.
KeepTangoAndFoxtrot t1_j0u4dl6 wrote
Fair enough! I feel better now about my discomfort knowing that it was Charles who did it.
it_is_Karo t1_j0u4gb3 wrote
Please, never ever use a 3D pie chart again
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ILearnedSoMuchToday t1_j0u9qew wrote
Greco's and An's both look like abominations. When they look bad and taste worse you don't have a good business model.
Apollon1212 t1_j0ubvjh wrote
Its very good except there is no mouth feel category...
buddyleeoo t1_j0uev36 wrote
Yah i was just messin around, definitely have to go on taste. Cool project.
Celestaria t1_j0ufxi0 wrote
But… it’s a pizza pie.
charlietactwo t1_j0ug9pm wrote
Okay, am I crazy? I see a photo for “Famous Peppers” but can’t find it anywhere in the ratings. It’s the only one I specifically looked at because the black olives stood out as a regular topping for me.
Big_Knife_SK t1_j0ugjss wrote
In my experience here in Canada most pizza is heavily influenced by the style popularised in restaurants run by Greek immigrants, which were abundant in the early dining scene. Thick crust, lots of sauce with a heavy layer of cheese on top with anything underneath being barely-cooked. It's even sometimes referred to as "Greek-style" or (here, anyway) "Regina-style" pizza.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0ugxf7 wrote
Not crazy.... we ate it, took the picture, rated it, but they closed. I took out the data cause I didnt want this to be about closed places. But I liked the picture!
Xhiw t1_j0uh3aa wrote
Or in a similar-sized town here in Italy. For example in Brindisi, which according to Wikipedia has a population similar to Moncton, there are 128 pizzerie listed on the local directory.
Objective_Plan_8266 t1_j0ulyg1 wrote
I have no idea where Moncton is. All I know is I'm really hungry right now and I wont be going to Grecos
camerasoncops t1_j0uo5w4 wrote
This is awesome! Come do Chattanooga TN please lol.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0upz4e wrote
Pardon me boy? Is that the Chattanooga...
Algaean t1_j0uq2dl wrote
And it hit your eye, that's amore!
Algaean t1_j0uq7tz wrote
Darn, i was about to sign up to your anti mouth feel crusade!
fibonaccisRabbit t1_j0uquqk wrote
My thoughts exactly
KeepTangoAndFoxtrot t1_j0ut0ak wrote
I will still be saying "gross" whenever someone brings up "mouthfeel." Join the passive crusade!
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MobofDucks t1_j0uuq0r wrote
Italians or "Italians"?
Gagewhylds t1_j0uvzg3 wrote
Would like to see the price of Boston Pizza listed, I guess they didn’t have 12”? It’s one of my few options in town here but I’m not paying 30 bucks for a single pizza.
Chiperoni t1_j0ux1q9 wrote
I know! This is ridiculous. Don’t they know that the inside of your cheeks are very sensitive? It's like the inside of your thighs except with a tongue.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0uzc5q wrote
I dont have my spreadsheet handy but I think their pizzas are 13" so wasnt fair to include them.
m_Pony t1_j0v0sfm wrote
Challenge accepted I wish.
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Nickallendartmouth t1_j0v11gi wrote
Now, come do Dartmouth NS!
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0v14qr wrote
I really debated adding food grocer deli pizzas. There would have been a few more.
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ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0v1pfg wrote
But that would mean Id have to be on the radio. (I like CBC)
towcar t1_j0v4ytu wrote
This is very cool. Also glad to see Boston pizza so low as I find it quite low tier compared to most pizzas I've ever had.
Surprised there isn't any Neapolitan style pizza. Might be more west coast popular (famoso pizzeria is growing fast on this half). I found myself completely biased to this style of pizza. Though not sure what "the works" would be on one of those. Also I don't know if they sell in 12 inch either.
rhybgaro t1_j0v5f7m wrote
Maybe that can be another project (and excuse to eat more pizza) for you both!
hms_poopsock t1_j0v6udw wrote
Should have made a real pizza with those ingredients in proportion for the chart
whatasaveeeee t1_j0v747y wrote
15 dollars for a pizza???? In london which is an expensive place, very decent margheritta pizzas can be had for about £5.50 and a works pizza equivalent for about £8.50. Taxes Included
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Gagewhylds t1_j0vbghs wrote
$24.26 when using 13” to 12” circle math. I had to know where they fell on the chart! I’m surprised they’re only 2nd most expensive.
Prestigious_Stage699 t1_j0ve2yr wrote
Ordering "the works" to compare pizzas is literally the worst way to do it.
mankytoes t1_j0vextk wrote
Who the fuck comes in from clubbing and makes a pizza? You buy the dirtiest pizza you can find (my favourite, which I've only seen in the north of England, is a "London pizza" which is just a load of fries baked into a margarita), then hopefully pass out before you've eaten much, so you have the holy grail of hangover foods, cold pizza.
Bluebaronn t1_j0vhlmz wrote
I am amazed that Moncton has this many pizza places. I looked up the population and its 1/3 of what my town is. Im sure our list is half as long if you are avoiding chains...maybe even less.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0vi3u4 wrote
Not sure which #s you checked but...
Moncton alone is 75,000 but Greater Moncton, which was the scope for these pizza places, is a tri community area of 150,000. It includes Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview.
supersimu7 t1_j0vjbg9 wrote
Holy shit my Italian soul left me
Bluebaronn t1_j0vk5ha wrote
I was originally looking at the city pop only, so its more like half the size. Either way, that seems like a great Indy Pizza per capita figure. I'm envious.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0vooid wrote
Oh we're aware. Pizza is like a religion and my region its like a tiny local church that does things weirdly.
peanutsfordarwin t1_j0vup7g wrote
Freddie's and Jack's. Looked the best. IMO.
Randomthought5678 t1_j0vvyg1 wrote
$26.95 for a 12 inch pizza!!! Was the dough salted by virgin tears? Was a tomato sauce smashed by Bull fighters and bulls? Was it made with space cheese?!
So many questions.
SlimefaceMcG t1_j0vwa03 wrote
We’re such Gusto fans. We travel to Moncton just for their cheesecakes. Now we can use this to help decide where to eat next time we’re in town. Thank you!
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0vy9cl wrote
Both great too.
merdub t1_j0w2b9v wrote
I have a hard time believing Pizza Pizza was better than Little Caesars.
Pizza Pizza is THE WORST PIZZA. Somehow the cheese is always super weird and congealed and I strongly believe their crust is just corrugated cardboard. The ONLY redeeming thing is the garlic dipping sauce.
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southpaw85 t1_j0w35by wrote
Tongues have been known to be between thighs
devanchya t1_j0w4eqb wrote
Choo choo
Big_Knife_SK t1_j0w54x6 wrote
Australia. It's a Crocodile Dundee reference.
DANGERSCONE t1_j0w5qxm wrote
As a bluenoser, quick tangential questions that always bugged me:
Do you guys have proper donairs in NB? I assume so, but never had one there. If so, does the availability just sort of taper off as you get closer to Quebec? Hard stop at the border? Or can you get a half decent donair before Rivière de Loupe?
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0w6wk9 wrote
Yo bluenoser bro, define "proper" and I'll answer
mofrymatic t1_j0w703e wrote
The cheeks are the thighs of the head
DANGERSCONE t1_j0w7ugw wrote
Sure thing: my idea of proper is loosely a steamed pita filled with gyro meat, diced white onion and tomatoes, condensed milk sweet sauce. That’s it.
If I had to be picky I’d want that meat to be on a shawarma spit and carved off fresh to order. Lettuce is not allowed and the prefect sauce has been frozen and thawed in beginning of the day in a to-go 4oz cup.
neosephiroth11 t1_j0w9ue1 wrote
So cool! Can you do it with the Donair's next? 🤌
wendewende t1_j0wa31z wrote
Came to the comment section for this. What OP did is a culinary equivalent of unprotected sex
dml997 t1_j0wa80k wrote
Stop eating the box. Crust will taste better.
LittleRatMan18 t1_j0wav8r wrote
guess I don't need glasses after all
lovely chart :)
Ibanker888 t1_j0wdjv3 wrote
Canadian pizza looks like shit
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0wdp8o wrote
Ok cool I cant answer with 100% accuracy but..
Steamed Pita: Maybe? I think some places do.
Gyro meat fresh to order: Yes.
Diced onion: Yes.
Tomatoes: Yes.
Condensed milk sweet sauce: Yes.
So with those 5 requirements its like somewhere between 80% and 100% yes we have proper donairs per your idea of one.
notofyourworld t1_j0wdqyc wrote
It's probably in Canadian dollars and Canadian measurements? Canadian bananas tend to have more variable sizes due to consistent meese attacks on banana ranches.
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0we1zl wrote
20/20 my dude
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0weaig wrote
This mouth feel data is so nuts which is why i'm posting it on its own next week.
Guava7 t1_j0wfe3b wrote
Love it!!! Can't wait!!!
You're a good sport.
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iamamuttonhead t1_j0wmqbm wrote
Interesting - there are a lot of "greek style" pizza places in MA as well. I detest Greek style pizza. Luckily, there are plenty of real pizza places as well.
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djembejohn t1_j0wne1p wrote
Could you do another graph of your diabetes, blood pressure and liver function stats?
miltjef t1_j0wr8lb wrote
$15 isn’t far off then, £8.50 is about $14.00 Canadian.
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ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0wye1t wrote
Advice for you: Go to An's Restaurant in Moncton and order a pizza.
usernameisusername57 t1_j0wyhgl wrote
I'm an American, so maybe yours are different, but it's hard for me to imagine a pizza worse than Papa John's. The fact that it's close to the middle of your list is concerning...
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merdub t1_j0x0vin wrote
Haha yes it is but Pizza Pizza is also a chain here in Canada.
DaMoonRulez_1 t1_j0x2009 wrote
Greco looks decent in the photo. I'd like to try it just to see how things went so bad.
UnderTowed t1_j0x4yf1 wrote
This list def shows different tastes for diff folks. Pizza D above tide and boar. That shit is whack as fk
Objective-Throat-614 t1_j0x5g29 wrote
a cool concept but none of them look good
ReelDeadOne OP t1_j0x7gwk wrote
It was 1/2 burnt, it could have easily ranked higher. It's our regions cheapo and most loved/hated pizza. We don't hate it usually!
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ZsaFreigh t1_j0x81sc wrote
Because of this chain, in Canada, Little Caesar's slogan had to be changed from "Pizza, Pizza" to just "Two Pizzas"
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SUPRVLLAN t1_j0xbbwp wrote
…so the same price.
nimbat1003 t1_j0xgxhh wrote
Sees the pictures damn An how did u screw up Ur reatraunt that much.
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flyovertwice t1_j0xhquj wrote
That was my thought too. Papa John’s has some of the worst sauce in my area and they gave it an 8.
Legallydead111 t1_j0xjfi9 wrote
Hmm that's weird, I thought the photo looked rly good compared to many here
crlogic t1_j0xlq3m wrote
I liked /u/anarcho-stripperism pizza ranking better
gabawhee t1_j0xn7d6 wrote
Nah fam of all the Pizzas Pizza Hut is still the most expensive
Nextasy t1_j0y4xe0 wrote
Wait you guys don't have pizza pizza in America?
I just figured it was one of those American chains that's so massive it just exists under the strength of its own momentum despite universal agreement that its garbage. Now I have no idea how they still exist.
Creative_Elk_4712 t1_j0y7mzd wrote
As an Italian and pizza fan, pizza doesn’t have to be regular to be good. It needs to be properly leavened, cooked at the right temperatures and have the right hydration
It can look like a mashed mess and be the best pizza ever, it’s in the material, not the shape
Mudinthetang t1_j0yl3hi wrote
As a newfoundland native, I was looking to see where Piattos landed on your list. I was sad to find out its closed down in your town. Not sure why it closed, that place is the bees knees, and it's St. John's locations are both thriving.
buddyleeoo t1_j0yo3p0 wrote
I'm an enthusiest for both. People eat with their eyes first. Distribution of ingredients for even flavor in every bite is also crucial. Of course I haven't tasted it, but if I see a uneven glob of stuff it makes me think they're not trying.
Creative_Elk_4712 t1_j0zhqr4 wrote
This is totally different from my experience, these aren’t really things people consider to judge a pizza here…
Pizzas are obv all about the same roundness, ingredients ought to be regularly scattered on the pizza because with only 2-3 minutes in the oven they wouldn’t cook well if not. So the point is that the regularity of its shape are a given due to the speed of the process itself, it’s a necessary outcome, and irregularities aren’t minded by customers
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