Submitted by Scuderia_Renault t3_zdekif in dataisbeautiful
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chazwomaq t1_iz1h076 wrote
Interesting - the amount seems very normal if not extravagant to me. Possibly country differences.
Striking-Tip7504 t1_iz20g4g wrote
I easily spend €250-300 a month on groceries and I often buy things at cheaper supermarkets. So I think €100 in Western Europe would be extremely frugal.
I do eat a high protein and reasonably high vegetables diet. So if I sacrificed my health I could spend less. But it would also be very easy to spend €400 a month if you don’t pay much attention.
chazwomaq t1_iz26swg wrote
Wow! I spend about £400 a month for a family of four. We eat very well.
Historical-Jury-3720 t1_iz2orgs wrote
I spend about that as a single male in the US. Before the American stereotypes come in, I’m fit and don’t overeat 😂
masterdecoy2017 t1_iz3x22n wrote
A healthy diet is usually more expensive, though.
Historical-Jury-3720 t1_iz4zsdp wrote
Of course. My comment was in jest regarding stereotypes of Americans being overweight.
masterdecoy2017 t1_iz517mh wrote
I think you meant statistics, not stereotypes.
Historical-Jury-3720 t1_iz6luyl wrote
No, I meant stereotypes. Stereotypes may be statistically accurate, but not universally valid. In this case you can see how that is true.
masterdecoy2017 t1_iz8gfmo wrote
Sorry, my comment was supposed to be a jest regarding the statistical accuracy of this stereotype. Hope you keep healthy.
Fleinsuppe t1_iz5csjh wrote
Yeah 400€ for me also, single male Norway. Skinny healthy eater
Fickle-Machine-6358 t1_iz78azl wrote
Single fit American male you say? 😉
rapidtester t1_iz32vmi wrote
How does one do this... I try to be frugal and spend like twice as much on half the people :/
IffySaiso t1_iz4au69 wrote
Plan ahead. Spend loads of time on preparation.
Buying for more people means buying in bulk, where you would throw that away with fewer people.
The more thrifty people around us plan out their meals for a month, to make sure they can buy in bulk deals, and freeze meals/products for the end of the month. They will use the ingredients of every dish and combine them into other dishes with different spices/herbs/flavors to create some interest. The variety within the season is sometimes a little lacking, but overall it's still balanced over all the seasons.
Frozen seems to be a good choice left or right. Flash-frozen meats, seafood, fish, fruits, and vegetables are considered close to fresh, but usually cheaper. If you have the space at home to store leftovers, so you can buy in bulk.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz5auw2 wrote
Haha! It's mostly the fear of not having a backup when something goes wrong, I guess. We would do the same when we were in India, lavishly overspending, knowing we have our parents financially bailing us out whenever needed.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz5akkk wrote
We are vegetarians. Her Diet is mostly Indian food and vegetables. We sometimes eat a sort of unique grain called millet (cereal crops), a healthier rice substitute and relatively cheaper.
IffySaiso t1_iz4ajig wrote
Netherlands here. We spend roughly €100 a week (€400 a month), which is considered frugal for a family of four eating mostly vegetables, fruits, and proteins. We could go lower if we had less variety in our diet and buy cheaper meats instead of the organic stock and plant-based substitutes we do now.
HieronymusGoa t1_iz4by1e wrote
100 € in western europe is laughable for groceries fo a whole month. unless youd eat out a lot.
seas_the_day214 t1_iz32d15 wrote
She did the majority of her grocery shopping at Penny, which is an extreme discount grocery store in Germany
shop_snack t1_iz174ou wrote
Reminds me of when i was still studying and lived off of 100 Euros per month for groceries. Luckily food is cheap in Germany.
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Quander22 t1_iz14vdk wrote
She went to France for €300? Does she live there?
rezdm t1_iz1518g wrote
Looking at some shops names — from Germany.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz49k7p wrote
She lives and studies in Germany. I live in France. Her costs are primarily her flight tickets.
zipsdontquit t1_iz1bs7u wrote
She could have taken a train, i know a lot people do that to expend less
IffySaiso t1_iz4awn9 wrote
Or a bus, to be honest. Bus-fares are really cheap. When I did not have a family, I traveled all over Europe by bus. So cheap.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz5b448 wrote
Public transport was free for her because of the 9-euro ticket. We have covered the entire bavarian region under 9 euros xD
zipsdontquit t1_iz5y3g7 wrote
Thats mad! For like 10 dollars you can travel half a continent. Damn! Do tell us more
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz131wo wrote
Visualized using: https://sankeymatic.com
futurebigconcept t1_iz3rg2h wrote
Wow, so with a base income of about 15K, she saved almost 4,500, and traveled to Czech and France...fascinating.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz49t4b wrote
She's a student, works for 20 hours/ week.
Comedian_Resident t1_iz44sdh wrote
Looking at this I assume that boyfriend pays for quite a lot of her expenses.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz49qeo wrote
Nope! She's pursuing her master's and is mostly in the university for most of her time. She lives in a student dorm, so her rent is considerably cheaper.
Dark4stah t1_iz1ee0x wrote
I don't want to sound rude but isn't 15k euro a year too little for Germany
4thorange t1_iz1r76m wrote
Student jobs maybe
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz49uj7 wrote
Student job. Visa restrictions allows her to work for 20hr/ week.
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FartSwapper t1_iz49ex4 wrote
For a full time job, for sure. Maybe she works part time.
Finance_Hardo t1_iz3ydhr wrote
I think OP has converted the currency from Indian rupee to USD. I see a few Indian names in the shopping list
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz49v7r wrote
Nope! All the spendings are in Euros.
Dark4stah t1_iz3z0dy wrote
Liddl in India?
Finance_Hardo t1_iz3zk1w wrote
I’m referring to the price breakup in the groceries section
Consistent_Pitch782 t1_iz28gjp wrote
Less than $370 a month on rent? Odds are strong she doesn’t live in America. Also, $3000 in saving? Good for her, I hope that’s true - also another strong sign she doesn’t live in America
seas_the_day214 t1_iz32jk8 wrote
Look at the store names. 100% lives in Germany
Translationerr0r t1_iz4hc14 wrote
Elsewhere OP commented she lives in a university dorm. 300EUR/month is cheap everywhere.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz49r4m wrote
she's in Germany.
knowknowknow t1_iz17jri wrote
She pays more tax than Trump. SMH
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knowknowknow t1_iz1hqvw wrote
I think it noteworthy that someone on a low income making sacrifices to scrape together paltry savings pays more taxes than some billionaires. Maybe you don't, that's on you.
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knowknowknow t1_iz1jcll wrote
And yet ..
zipsdontquit t1_iz1bi74 wrote
Awesome I gotta do that for my income 😑
Effective_Hope_3071 t1_iz1k0w1 wrote
Is she subsidized by you?
My wife and I spend like 1000 USD on groceries a month hygenics and pet food included.
How do you get by on that little spent on food?
olli_bombastico t1_iz1r7t1 wrote
Currencies other than dollars exist. 120 euros/month isn't unheard of in Europe.
CoweringCowboy t1_iz22uvx wrote
Good point! 1200€ (I assume you meant 1200) is $1260. That 60$ makes a HUGE difference.
olli_bombastico t1_iz24ma3 wrote
No, I meant 120 euros (as in 125 dollars) per month (as in a 30 day period).
CoweringCowboy t1_iz254ru wrote
120 euros a month, converted to dollars & compared to the US poverty line (which is absurdly low) would be roughly 12% of the poverty line. I have trouble believing anyone could live on $1,500/yr in the US or the EU without significant familial or governmental help.
olli_bombastico t1_iz26t2d wrote
- That's only food expense.
- You don't have to believe me and can check this thread. Maximum is about 200€ pppm.
- Why are you comparing US and Europe, which have significantly different costs of living?
CoweringCowboy t1_iz283xl wrote
I thought you meant all expenses, not food. That’s my fault. Was comparing to US poverty line because the US has a defined numerical threshold- the EU does not.
Translationerr0r t1_iz4hgjx wrote
Yeah.. but not in Germany. 120 is very little.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4a0v1 wrote
Hahah! No. Sometimes I buy her flowers & food when I get to work extra. Both of us are students and get to work for 20hrs/week.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4b8sd wrote
Interestingly, she used to cover my student debt repayment when my expenses overshoot. We lived together for most of the year - so the costs were split. I recently moved to France for work.
Neowynd101262 t1_iz1pago wrote
Must be the case.
[deleted] t1_iz13yh8 wrote
I swear 20 years later we will pay $50000 for rent. And then we will start living in the office.
ymaldor t1_iz19q87 wrote
4k4€ rent in a year is not much tho. That's not even 400 a month. I assume that's her half of rent or something so they live in an 8k8€ flat a year which is quite alright for 2 people. They're probably in Germany, that's probably not a big apartment but I'd guess it's not a 1 room either.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz49w5e wrote
1 room student dorm.
ymaldor t1_iz4a13t wrote
Oh so she's paying the full amount I hope otherwise that's expensive as fuck man.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz5cizm wrote
Yes! It's almost 400 now because of Inflation. Her room is approx 25m2.
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I thought it is in a month.
tickettohell1 t1_iz14aue wrote
What is this type of chart called?
e3928a3bc t1_iz16zvq wrote
sankey, I believe
shop_snack t1_iz16x6g wrote
Sanky diagram
4thorange t1_iz1rbb5 wrote
Other income is kind of sus, dear OP
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4a50b wrote
We sold some of our old furniture on eBay. Occasionally, her parents send her some money as festival gifts.
4thorange t1_iz5ojs1 wrote
makes sense, nice username btw. Thanks for the explanation.
strawberry_l t1_iz44wuc wrote
Selling something on eBay?
Westcork1916 t1_iz37pvq wrote
Good practice for "How my wife spent my money 2024"
IffySaiso t1_iz4az55 wrote
"How my wife managed our money in 2024"
There, I fixed it for ya.
ChickEnergy t1_iz4ave3 wrote
Standard reply from US americans. Imagine living in an economy where you think women in western countries can't have a good economy without a man providing for her. Get real.
pookiedookie232 t1_iz3shys wrote
Damn, budget is so accurate you even realized she lost 8.26 somewhere
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4agme wrote
Hahah! We have student debts to repay. So we make sure to track every single penny we spend. 8.26 what she lost are the coins she forgets to pick up from the laundry machines that someone flicks up later.
Incerto9 t1_iz4djg9 wrote
Wow, she's very good at saving money. I study in France and have a similar budget, so, it's nice to see something comparable to look at.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz5d6ni wrote
That was the whole point of publishing this data. Wanted to check where we are overspending/ understanding.
peter303_ t1_iz21swy wrote
What part of world? Hard to do in US or Western Europe, unless with parents.
k_blubb t1_iz4e0os wrote
student in germany, OP mentioned elsewhere. I‘m german. It‘s totally plausible
DenseLocation t1_iz253gx wrote
Could you explain a bit about how the data was captured? I'd be keen to do one of these for myself.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4a7lu wrote
We maintain a personal and a joint budget.
k_blubb t1_iz4eafb wrote
My gf and me wanted to do the same. What tools do you use foe tracking? And do you have a 3rd bank account?
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz5d082 wrote
The simplest way is a google sheet. I have created a dashboard where we update our expenses daily. We have a joint (3rd bank account) where we club our savings.
k_blubb t1_iz64gvn wrote
I do have a google acc, but I‘m not a big fan of using it too extensive. The third bank account on the other hand is something I should attempt. Thanks for your answer.
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Cobbdouglas55 t1_iz3zwh0 wrote
She doesn't spend a single euro in going out, bars or restaurants? Is she trapped inside your house?
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4ara1 wrote
Her uni schedule is pretty jam-packed. She goes to restaurants, which are accounted as food. In terms of going out - most of her travel was relatively free (9 Euro ticket)
EOwl_24 t1_iz412ke wrote
Where do you pay 4000€ in rent?
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4art3 wrote
Student dorms.
FartSwapper t1_iz49ln3 wrote
Sharing with a partner/someone else and pool together the rent. Or live in the ass end of nowhere, I guess.
EOwl_24 t1_iz4afkq wrote
I thought it was a lot, didn’t realize it was annual. 350 sounds ok if you live in a wg (shared apartment) or in a small town
FartSwapper t1_iz4b0zx wrote
Monthly? From slim student life to balling out of control :D
FartSwapper t1_iz49b4r wrote
Fuck, we spend like 900 euros a month on groceries...
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FartSwapper t1_iz4u672 wrote
Or maybe we're buying food for more than one person and don't necessarily deal with the same prices as OP's girlfriend? But of course being a cunt to strangers online is more fun :)
Nilzor t1_iz4aksv wrote
Pedantism: Is "Savings" really spending money?
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DickOwnerOG t1_iz4ec9w wrote
These figures are in Koruna or Euro ?
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz5d7gm wrote
Euros.
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Bananapedro t1_iz4nqa0 wrote
So did you get a modelcar for your birthday? If yes, what did you get?
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz5dqfv wrote
Hahaha! Yes. She got me a 2009 WDC-winning Brawn GP scale model (Jensen Buttons) for my birthday and Alonso's 2005 & 2006 Renault as a surprise gift when we met after a couple of months :D
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hazzarae t1_iz5lpih wrote
what did you use to make this?
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treesaresocool t1_iz1pcla wrote
Don’t you mean ex girlfriend, after she sees this shit
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4ay07 wrote
Hahah! No. She is proud of whatever I m doing,.
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knowknowknow t1_iz17c8n wrote
I disagree. On a low salary I think she is doing great to save anything
Connathon t1_iz1fp3b wrote
Then she needs to dramatically increase the income while not allowing lifestyle creep to kick in.
Scuderia_Renault OP t1_iz4awpn wrote
She's a working student. Our visa arrangements allow us to work for 20hrs/ week. Given inflation and rising heating costs - I am proud of whatever she is saving.
phishyman2 t1_iz13wxt wrote
Amazing how little she spent on food and groceries combined.