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barlog123 t1_ivo5bi7 wrote

Reply to comment by Staeff in More people are employed in clean energy than in fossil fuels by kickresume

They can't just be jobs they need to be productive jobs that add value otherwise you're subsidizing waste and inefficiency

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Staeff t1_ivo6hoe wrote

Look, I don't know what to tell you, renewables are already the cheapest way to produce energy in many countries and states and they have the benefit of not further advancing climate change, both of which adds value to the economy.

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barlog123 t1_ivo6s41 wrote

How? They all have to be backed up with gas and coal because they're unreliable so it's renewable + gas/coal which isn't very green

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Staeff t1_ivo6un7 wrote

Are you arguing that being fully fossil is more green than renewables with fossil backup?

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barlog123 t1_ivo8uny wrote

Yeah, why not.

  1. The production and demand just shifts to other places so going green does very little in the grand scheme of things.
  2. Creates reliance on outdated unclean oil/gas/coal infrastructure and rouge nations especially in the case of an emergency.
  3. The net total reduction is minimalized by the need for backup until the battery tech is there.
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Staeff t1_ivo9sbc wrote

If that's what you choose to tell yourself to rationalize not going green then please stick to it, you are beyond being argued with...

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barlog123 t1_ivoa06d wrote

I'm not saying don't go green. I'm saying the current plan is beyond stupid and pointless

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