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icywatermelons OP t1_ir5nt45 wrote

sources:https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d20/tables/dt20_323.30.asp

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d20/tables/dt20_322.30.asp

https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=S0201%3A%20SELECTED%20POPULATION%20PROFILE%20IN%20THE%20UNITED%20STATES&t=002%3A004%3A012%3A400%3AAge%20and%20Sex&g=0100000US&tid=ACSSPP1Y2019.S0201&moe=false (updated)

tools: tableau

note (edited):

placing the calculation of percentages here in case (there was a mistake on the legend on the graph itself, i apologise)

- % of each ethnicity over the total of all four (aged 18-44 years)

- % of each ethnicity over the total of all four (both masters and bachelors)

- [(% of degree - % of population)/ % of population] *100

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857477458 t1_ir652a9 wrote

Why use 18-44 age range when the overwhelming majority of people will be receiving degrees in their early 20s?

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AftyOfTheUK t1_ir6hu33 wrote

This has both associates and masters in it. I'd agree with your statement if it was just associates.

The average of grad students is in their 30s, though restricting to just masters would bring that down.

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ThrowRA_5318008 t1_ir8qxq4 wrote

‘Associates degree’ is a weird category: most people who earn them are either young (like right out of HS) or older than those who stop at a Bachelor’s: women who return to school during or after raising families, for example. Either way, an Associates degree is nowhere near comparable to a Bachelor’s in terms of the health or economic benefits that accompany that level of educational attainment. Statistically, a person with a terminal Associate’s is no better off than someone who ended their formal education with a HS diploma.

This is why demographers frequently separate educational attainment categories as HS or less vs. Some college or more, or Bachelor’s degree or more vs. Some college or less (this category includes those who’ve completed formal education with a HS diploma or GED but no college at all, even if a person completed five years of trade school and makes $100K/yr).

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Macrophage87 t1_ir6zoxu wrote

Plenty of people who get advanced degrees work between bachelors and masters. For some places, it's even an application requirement (notably with the MBA).

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DavidWaldron t1_ir9mszx wrote

I don’t understand your calculation. You’ve effectively divided by population twice (% of degrees)/((% of population)^2 ). Put it simply: according to your data, black people earn 11% of all master’s degrees. Your Census link isn’t working, but the black percent of the age 18-44 population is somewhere over 13%. How does this end up as overrepresented?

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icywatermelons OP t1_ir9uy4h wrote

i just relooked at what i typed and realised that i wrote divide instead of minus, i'm sorry about the oversight on my side

but the bars are based on the formula below:[(% of degree - % of population)/ % of population] *100

in 2019, the percentage of blacks aged 18-44 were 12.4% and they were 13.79% of the master degrees, so

[(13.79-12.4)/12.4]*100 = 11.21

TLDR:

- my mistake for typing / instead of - (but the bars are not affected)

- i've updated the census link as well, thanks for the heads up

- i could upload a table if necessary

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DavidWaldron t1_ir9wncv wrote

Yeah I’m afraid the Census links don’t seem to work. That’s fine. I use the microdata and calculate that black non-Hispanics are 13.4% of the 18-44 population, and 15.7% of the 18-44 population when you exclude foreign-born and limit to the racial categories you are using.

Edit, I put the wrong link: https://imgur.com/a/PvEWW3o

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