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South_Oread t1_jabda9d wrote

What is your average hourly? It sucks that so many tip so little.

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wanmoar t1_jabwsy0 wrote

Do you tip your fedex/prime/ups guy or gal?

edit: remove UPS because their drivers are unionised and salaried.

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TheMelv t1_jacphyt wrote

If I'm not mistaken, those drivers are fully salaried and have benefits.

The food delivery apps really rip everyone off. They charge small businesses astronomical fees over 20%, often make items more expensive on their end and charge customers a ton.

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wanmoar t1_jacuf37 wrote

No they don’t all have those salaries and benefits.

They are, like delivery drivers, independent contractors.

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Brandino144 t1_jacwrhx wrote

Prime is the extreme implementation of this business model, FedEx uses this model with tighter employment restrictions for its contractors, and UPS has both full-time employee drivers and contractors, but it’s drivers are also unionized with Teamsters and the pay and benefits are much better than the other two.

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TheMelv t1_jacvm6y wrote

No one tips them because there is no option for that. That's still very different because the delivery is the service. Someone had already paid FedEx and UPS for the delivery. By that logic, there should definitely be a fee for food delivery.

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wanmoar t1_jad97re wrote

> No one tips them because there is no option for that

Cash?

> That's still very different because the delivery is the service. Someone had already paid FedEx and UPS for the delivery.

And you've already paid the delivery platform for the delivery. Look at the checkout next time, you'll see a delivery fee already added.

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TheMelv t1_jadb6gt wrote

Bro, no one is going to leave cash on their doorstep. Those drivers don't expect tips, app drivers do.

That goes to the platform (technology, coders, software engineers, maintenance, profit) almost none to the delivery guy.

Honestly, I'd rather they just add all that to the one fee and they pay their drivers something fair, same with restaurants and servers but until then, if I'm going to opt into the luxury of someone bringing my food, I'm not going to be cheap, selfish prick about it.

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wanmoar t1_jadmzmb wrote

How do you know they don't expect tips or that all delivery drivers do?

Source for your assertions?

> That goes to the platform (technology, coders, software engineers, maintenance, profit) almost none to the delivery guy.

Source?

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TheMelv t1_jadyw6u wrote

Are you being serious? How do I know package delivery guys don't expect tips? Plenty of services are understood that tip is not necessary, like dental work or plumbing. We've already established that UPS is union salary, google FedEx tipping and see what comes up. Basic tipping is part of grooming service, tattooing, food service and food delivery amongst others.

My source is personal experience, I used to do Uber, door dash and Postmates in my city for side money because I like riding my bike and exploring anyway. I've also ordered from apps so know what the fees are. It's honestly a fun little side gig if you have other income, I don't really get how people can live off of it.

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wanmoar t1_jae1axi wrote

> I don't really get how people can live off of it

one google later...

https://thisonlineworld.com/living-off-doordash/

but also, is salary my job as a consumer to ensure? Shouldn't the driver decide that if they're seeing if this side gig is worth it? If most of don't think it is, wouldn't they quit (they did where I live and now delivery is 40% more expensive)

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wanmoar t1_jae06ok wrote

> google FedEx tipping and see what comes up

Challenge accepted

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedexers/comments/zfn8om/why_isnt_there_an_option_to_tip_fedexups_drivers/

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TheMelv t1_jae3l5n wrote

So there isn't an option and some would prefer it. The post suggests lowering the base rate to accommodate tipping and other people disagree. I guess the bottom line is that it's not expected. FedEx policy is they are not allowed to accept it.

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KrazyKev03 OP t1_jabdxa8 wrote

Varies a lot as an independent contractor. Sometimes less than $10/hr sometimes more than $25/hr on holidays and weekends!

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Geshman t1_jabf9jn wrote

And that is only the profit? After gas and mileage that's pretty rough

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KrazyKev03 OP t1_jabfiv6 wrote

No. To clarify, the amount in the data is only the customer tip from each order. It excludes the transit pay (usually around $0.8/km) and other eligible subsidies and bonuses.

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