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aintnofoolia t1_j917412 wrote

People love their bibimbap

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Firenze42 t1_j91yfb0 wrote

It is well flavored and for the 2 person meal they give you enough veggies to make it at least 3 meals. It I one of my favorites.

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g1ngertim t1_j92xqm8 wrote

Bibimbap is fucking amazing, to be fair.

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appleparkfive t1_j967bct wrote

One day people in the flyover states are going to have their lives changed when they discover Kimbap/Gimbap.

I mean it's just a sushi roll of bibimbap. And they're so, so good.

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jakeman8888 OP t1_j918j7w wrote

For anyone inquiring about “Asian Recipes”, or “European Recipes” and their more specific counterparts, this is just how they make it on their side. They’re saying that dish is “Asian like”, or “European like”. That’s why there’s both and they store it as such.

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kedreep t1_j91io60 wrote

Great job! I'm surprised more people don't recognize this immediately. Big companies don't always lay stuff out in the most rational way. Was this achieved via scraping?

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kedreep t1_j91j8j9 wrote

Is it ok if I received a link for the data? Would love to take a look.

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jakeman8888 OP t1_j91x1lx wrote

Yeah I extracted all of this from their site via a custom scraper I made. If you want some info feel free to message me and i'd be happy to share it.

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rgw1876 t1_j92kdw5 wrote

@hellofresh what is the difference between Nordic and Scandinavian food? I must know!!

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Woodie626 t1_j90jvb0 wrote

With all the countries individually listed along with it, what is Asian?

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uuhhnmmsd t1_j90lnxx wrote

Yeah same with European

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Zr0w3n00 t1_j920x6r wrote

Italy clearly isn’t in Europe… durrr

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Isgortio t1_j92eot1 wrote

I wonder if British gets included as European. Now I'm curious as to whether every country gets the same recipes with HelloFresh.

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juleztb t1_j96qlye wrote

Don't think so. At least not in the same categories. Can't remember one dish being called "American" here in Germany. Though things like Burgers or Spare Ribs probably are.

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TwentyTwoTwelve t1_j91zx2m wrote

I'd imagine they're combination dishes that don't really fall in to any one country. A lot of the veggie stuff tends to be this.

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Labenyofi t1_j92aws5 wrote

According to a comment by OP, it’s for the dishes that say “Asian inspired” or “European flavours”, etc. Dishes that don’t have a specific nationality associated with them.

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SnowflakeRene t1_j94wp0v wrote

In the first chart different food shares colors. I thought it was based on the region but Mexican and Japanese are both blue. That’s confusing

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Aezyre t1_j915gox wrote

Least favourited: vegan and veggie stuff

Most favourited: BEEF

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_BreakingGood_ t1_j92auzn wrote

Least favorite looks mostly like Tuna and Squash.

I've actually have some of the non-tuna/squash options in the least favorite, the reason they're down there is because the quality is really poor. Eg: the gouda & fig sandwhich. You get 1 very hard bun, jam in a squeeze packet, and 1 tiny thing of prosciutto. That's the whole recipe and it costs like $13.

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jake-8-k t1_j92nnco wrote

Yeah dude, I gave it a shot. I expected leftovers if I’m here eating for 2. Granted I intermitente fast and eat after my workouts but I really expected more out of these meals. I don’t see the difference between having Instacart pickup recipe ingredients and hello fresh - except that I can specify pasture raised animal products to Instacart…

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InconspicuousChud t1_j91ryo7 wrote

I’ve had 2 vegan dishes from them just to try them out and they just weren’t that good…. I know vegan food can be amazing but not the 2 I tried.

Didn’t even finish them, put them in the fridge as leftovers and then threw it away a few days later

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Amag140696 t1_j927opm wrote

I use Everyplate (the cheaper version still owned by them I guess since the ingredients say Hello Fresh). I haven't gotten vegan recipes through them but they have some fantastic vegetarian options! Lots of chickpea/rice dishes, quesadillas, pizzas etc. They typically seem to have way more seasonings and interesting ingredients since they're saving on meat costs.

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TwentyTwoTwelve t1_j9208c9 wrote

Haven't tried the vegan stuff but we do 2 veggie per week and the honeyed halloumi chermoula tabbouleh is a favourite. Portion sizes tend towards the larger side too.

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Firenze42 t1_j91ynkc wrote

The grilling cheese is usually good and they have a few Asain and African dishes that are good, but for the most part the veggie dishes are just the meat dishes with beans, so yeah, meat, good.

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jeminar t1_j90koj0 wrote

Data looks like it's US only, correct? Probably worth stating that.

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UnavoidablyHuman t1_j93m2sb wrote

Yeah @OP it would be really cool to scape the other sites like UK or Australia

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yuorsleepytherapist t1_j91ifjz wrote

“It’s French, it’s better” still working uh?

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Hugga_Bear t1_j91ytdh wrote

To be fair, the French also consider their own food far superior to everyone else's. (I live here, they can get snooty over food...)

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Li2_lCO3 t1_j90zbcz wrote

Every cooking step they want you to add salt.

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H_Lunulata t1_j92579d wrote

I was surprised that the word cloud didn't include lemon, lime, or zest.

Nearly every card we get wants a lemon or lime shaved.

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TaskSignificant4171 t1_j92app8 wrote

Slice scallions, separating whites from greens

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H_Lunulata t1_j92l7ez wrote

oh yes. In fact, I bet you could just pre-zest a few lemons, limes, and slice+separate green onions, and you'd be half-way through a good percentage of their recipes.

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3pbc t1_j92hfag wrote

tbh I never thought about zesting but man it really brings out the flavor

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PharmDinagi t1_j95lwwo wrote

If I gotta zest one more goddamn lemon...

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H_Lunulata t1_j95uga1 wrote

We got a lemon zester for a present and it sat in a drawer for 25 years until we started getting Hello Fresh / Good Food / Chef's Plate.

Now we joke about shaving lemons and cuddling the chicken (pat chicken dry with a paper towel then yadda yadda...)

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Zjohns2 t1_j9e3e9k wrote

This cloud is sus. Where's carrots... Every third meal I get is carrots.

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DevinCauley-Towns t1_j93mhmj wrote

That’s how cooking works! Salt brings out the flavour in foods, almost everything needs to be salted at some point and it’s usually best to salt things earlier on rather than tossing some on at the end.

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imtotallyfine t1_j93nrm5 wrote

Yes, I read some cooking book a few years back that had chapters on different techniques and the biggest takeaway I got was you should salt a little at each stage.

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DevinCauley-Towns t1_j93ooeb wrote

Using enough salt (and other seasonings) on foods, especially meat, and giving it sufficient time to soak in is a huge game changer. Simply putting some salt & pepper on your chicken breast and letting it sit in your fridge for 2-24hrs ahead of cooking will make a MASSIVE difference in how it tastes.

Edit: This applies moreso for even larger cuts of meat that require more salt and more time to fully absorb.

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Li2_lCO3 t1_j93pv7d wrote

I’ve pretty much eliminated high sodium and sugar to my diet. So see it at every stage is frustrating to me. Of course salt and fats (butter) make everything taste 1000x better, but I would rather not have a heart attack at 40.

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DevinCauley-Towns t1_j93r4wt wrote

Do you have a pre-existing health condition or family history that would make you at higher risk of heart issues related to sodium intake? If not, then your sodium intake may not matter much.

> # Low Salt Intake May Not Reduce the Risk of Heart Disease or Death

> There is some evidence showing that high salt intake may be associated with an increased risk of certain conditions like stomach cancer or high blood pressure.

> Despite this, there are several studies showing that a reduced-salt diet may not actually decrease the risk of heart disease or death.

> A large 2011 review made up of seven studies found that salt reduction had no effect on the risk of heart disease or death (16Trusted Source).

> Another review with over 7,000 participants showed that reduced salt intake did not affect the risk of death and had only a weak association with the risk of heart disease (17Trusted Source).

> However, the effect of salt on the risk of heart disease and death may vary for certain groups.

> For example, one large study showed that a low-salt diet was associated with a reduced risk of death but only in overweight individuals (18Trusted Source).

> Meanwhile, another study actually found that a low-salt diet increased the risk of death by 159% in those with heart failure (19Trusted Source).

> Clearly, further research is needed to determine how decreasing salt intake may affect different populations.

> But it’s safe to say that reducing salt intake does not automatically decrease the risk of heart disease or death for everyone.

Edit: Salt and sugar are very different things. One is an addictive compound that provides no nutritional value beyond pure energy and the other is a non-caloric essential micronutrient necessary to sustain basic bodily functions and required in higher amounts for optimal performance, especially for athletes.

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Li2_lCO3 t1_j93stz4 wrote

That’s interest. I don’t have any pre existing conditions but I feel worse at the end of the day when I consume more salt. Now that I’m getting older my stomach and body is responding differently to salt, sugars and red meat.

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DevinCauley-Towns t1_j93uf46 wrote

When it comes to nutrition there are general guidelines that are useful for most people. I like Michael Pollan’s advice:

> Eat (real) food. Not too much. Mostly plants.

Though no 1 diet is ideal for everyone and listening to your body can certainly help with this. I prefer to eat lower carb, which leads to my body retaining less water and by extension less salt with it. Additionally, I run & weight lift regularly which also increases my salt demands.

This means I need to intake more salt to keep my levels balanced and avoid fatigue or headaches. I eat very little processed food, so unless I’m going out of my way to add salt I’m not likely to get much in me just by consuming the food as is.

You may be more salt sensitive and thus reducing your salt intake may be the right choice for you, but not necessarily everyone else.

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meglandwellmusic t1_j966ax1 wrote

I do this with the recipes as well. I measure out a small bit of salt (like 1/8 tsp) and sprinkle a portion of that on when they want me to. That way I am technically salting, but not much.

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aluvus t1_j90iyhc wrote

Is "cooking difficulty" meant to be some sort of average across the category? If so, the label is unclear. My initial assumption was that the chart was loaded with the wrong data, since "cooking difficulty: European" did not make any sense.

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qilir t1_j90kpcf wrote

I think it's very clear, that European recipes have a difficulty of 2.71 on average, just would habe been nice to have a unit or explanation how difficulty is determined, but I'm gonna guess that's a problem on HelloFresh's side.

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Shigy t1_j90mdej wrote

Well I dunno about op of this thread but it’s pretty weird that “European” is so high when European countries and regions are all measuring out lower in difficulty. See German, Italian, French etc.

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qilir t1_j90qydw wrote

Yea I guess a few more infos would have been nice, maybe hello fresh actually has a 'European' category thats independent from the European countries recipes? Idk but you have a point

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dayneza t1_j90lqmd wrote

I would say without looking at the data that there is a tag in the recipe that indicates the level of difficulty of the recipe and that is what that is trying to show

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Cadbury_fish_egg t1_j91ao6q wrote

I love how popular Korean food has gotten. It’s so good!

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WorkingDogDoc t1_j94gd6g wrote

My local grocery store now carries galbi style ribs and even have a pre marinated version in the butcher section. Threw those on the grill for the Super Bowl, so easy and good

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RobbieRobb t1_j927y2m wrote

How is the word map not dominated by the word "salt" with everything else at least 1/4 of it's size?

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knewusr t1_j95vgn0 wrote

Every step is to add salt and pepper! And sometimes you had salt and pepper twice in a step. Step 1: add salt and pepper step 2: salt and pepper your salt and pepper.

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Series_G t1_j91am75 wrote

I ain't gonna argue with the love of beef, but..

  1. Bad pie chart (too many values for readability)
  2. Black backgrounds are a design I am constantly telling my teams to avoid (feels like 2004 design)
  3. There's no takeaway (what am supposed to be learning from this? Maybe it's the ubiquity of Korean beef?)
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kedreep t1_j91j0u4 wrote

This has a "200 level uni data class project" vibe to it. I really love the concept! But it makes me want to do it better lol. I assume that there's many features to the data but not many that can combine together to give great insights, so op did the best with what they had.

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mata_dan t1_j922jxh wrote

> 200 level uni data class project

Hah so it does but it's still better quality than those with a "we [I] are [am] pretending to be data scientists [a data scientist]" vibes.

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torchma t1_j921t0e wrote

What black backgrounds? Huh?

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Series_G t1_j92wk5w wrote

The whole page has a black background, which is why it has that windowpane look to it.

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H_Lunulata t1_j924qpy wrote

Heh, I just made the korean beef bibimbap last week. Not bad. Would make again.

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PlannerSean t1_j925bsp wrote

I use Hello Fresh and am liking it at lot. A lot less plastic waste than Good Food, which we used to have.

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H_Lunulata t1_j926lec wrote

We did them nearly every week fro about a year. Saved all the cards. Now we do 1 week a month or so to get some new cards, and the rest of the time we sort of randomly select 3 cards, buy groceries for the 4-person versions and make those, giving us 6 meals each and on the 7th day we order out :)

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We found Good Food had harder recipes that occasionally required a obscure kitchen tools. And as you mentioned, holy avocados do they overpackage. It was very good food, but we didn't like the wastage and weren't always up to the challenge of their "use every pot in your house" recipes.

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PlannerSean t1_j9274j1 wrote

Yeah that’s a good point about Good Food I hadn’t remembered. The HF ones definitely are easier.

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Amag140696 t1_j928qre wrote

I use Everyplate, their cheaper counterpart, and really enjoy it too overall. I've been using them for over a year now and they're constantly changing the packaging though. Sometimes they only use paper filling, sometimes it's thick cardboard inserts, sometimes they wrap every veggie individually, sometimes they're loose, sometimes they use two of those ice packs or just one. It's frustrating seeing some improvements only for them to go back to more plastic. Very inconsistent...

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j_cruise t1_j92o2k4 wrote

We've been using it for at least three years. Personally, it's changed my life. It's made me into a better cook altogether, even when not using their recipes, and tbh even taught me how to better shop for ingredients on my own (for the days when I don't make a Hello Fresh). Its also introduced me to a ton of food I didn't know about.

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Amity83 t1_j93j149 wrote

We used it for many years and finally stopped last fall. We were always impressed by the produce quality, but something fell off hard last year. We finally had to cancel because it got so bad. It’s a shame we really enjoyed it for a long time.

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Colballs87 t1_j90m776 wrote

Relax, mate. It's a graph about a few meals.

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TWOpies t1_j90ncr9 wrote

What do you mean?

This is what this sub is about. Data.

Him being irritated by poorly presented data is the correct response.

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the__itis t1_j923d6o wrote

It’s the word included in the name of the dish from the company, blame them for the lack of data.

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TWOpies t1_j90ndsu wrote

No you didn’t. You reacted appropriately to poorly presented data.

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Still_Trying22 t1_j923c3y wrote

Can you share from your view please what you see so wrong? I want to understand because I look at this chart, and I am amazed at the conclusions I can draw.

This is a totally legit request.

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campbellm t1_j916r8r wrote

> Worst data I ever saw.

You should get out more or hyperbole less.

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gatekprjg t1_j9194s4 wrote

Best comment I'm going to read today and it's only 7:42 a.m! Thanks!

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AntiMemeTemplar t1_j918ekc wrote

Since my 9th-grade English professor cut my marks for not hyperbolizing the essay abt how bad gaming is, I am traumatized and hyperbolize every sentence i type/speak

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ImSeverelyDisabled t1_j916vf0 wrote

This looks like it is as reported by hello fresh themselves so ask hello fresh what “European” or “Asian” cuisine is.

Looks like you have a lot of biases and you’re projecting all over the data.

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mata_dan t1_j921ott wrote

Lol premium butter chicken? It's a one pot curry, basic knowlege and chuck stuff in, has no fancy ingredients (though some if not via e.g. hello fresh can be difficult to find like fresh fenugreek leaves).

Anyway.
I can guarantee good quality and properly done fish and chips is much harder to cook, especially multiple portions, than a huge range of Indian food. But with a recipe - without guidance people would definitely struggle to get Indian food right. But no quality of recipe can get a mediocre cook to consistently do fish and chips perfectly. Also eeew having any fresh fish from any kind of central wholesale and certainly not in sushi :S

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AntiMemeTemplar t1_j92528y wrote

I didn't know that data was based on the US and told you what is a delicacy if not "Capitalized" by the US. Butter chicken is a lot different that what you get in us, it contains a lot more ingredients. Same for sushi, traditional sushi is a delicacy and not what fish on rice cake you get in US.

If OP stated the data was based in US, i would have considered the Capitalist versions of those respective meals

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DAVES-MOM t1_j944801 wrote

Looks good! One note: You should exclude the ingredients they assume you have (at a minimum). All recipes call for salt pepper butter and cooking oil, so they will screw your results and keep you from more valuable takeaways. Recommend a separate call out on the top essentials as a list or mentioned on a description of the chart. Keep up the good work!

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mjc543 t1_j921tyk wrote

Interesting idea and pretty cool dashboard. Suggestion: kill the NBC peacock-looking f**ktastrophe and replace it with a proper bar chart.

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Tortoise0191 t1_j92bru5 wrote

This is awesome love the breakdown I think I would like a legend for the “rating” as I’m unsure if the scale is 1 - 5 or 1 - 10. Something super little and I also don’t use hello fresh so I’m sure some previous knowledge would help my understanding

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jshein64 t1_j92pjyq wrote

I've been building dashboards and data visualizations for 30 years and run an analytics dept of 40 people and this is a really awful dashboard. If nothing else, ditch that pie chart

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noname0001111 t1_j92q1xc wrote

Not familiar with the app (or whatever), what version of bibimbap does it have?

It can be as simple as canned tuna + lettuce + rice + gochujang or as complicated as the famed Jeonju style.

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carlitospig t1_j92380f wrote

Awww nobody likes American food. 😆

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H_Lunulata t1_j925n47 wrote

I don't need HF to tell me how to make poutine, or other north american classics like "greasy nachos with bacon, sour cream, sausage, onion, and extra high fat cheese guaranteed to stop your heart immediately"

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Erikcreatesphotos t1_j92ebz9 wrote

I loved using hello fresh but I had a bad habit of forgetting to chose my recipes every week which often resulted in me not wanting to make another burger again or the shepherds pie and the bags would sit in my fridge unmade. I learned a lot about cooking but I hated the cleanup. I kept most of the recipe cards they sent and now cook the 4 serving meals as a meal prep rather than cooking something different every other day.

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CurveOfTheUniverse t1_j92j8mm wrote

This is timely. My partner and I recently won a contest that came with 6 free boxes, so we've been using this to offset our grocery bill a bit. I've been wanting to make a "starter pack" meme, but this is a much more useful examination.

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dickpickdan t1_j93e4ei wrote

Tuna and 4 bean salad, avocado toast. Why would you order these things in a subscription service when you can either open a few cans and add lime juice or simply, make toast.

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Alternative-Sea-6238 t1_j93khx3 wrote

We used to get Hello Fresh but found the quality control became abysmal. Started off with an occasional ingredient missing which I can understand happening from time to time. After a year or so it got to the point that nearly 1 in 3 boxes came with multiple missing ingredients. Last recipe was some salmon and broccoli dish with spices to add flavour. 2/3 spices were missing and so was the broccoli!

Stopped after that fiasco.

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saltwaffles t1_j94l4qj wrote

What did you guys switch to?

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Alternative-Sea-6238 t1_j94ycci wrote

Tried Gusto which was more expensive but didn't have the same issues. The main reason we used these companies was because of the ongoing "what shall we have to eat tonight?" dilemma and if we had a few meals already chosen in a bag this issue was less of a problem.

After 6 months we had built up a decent number of recipe cards we liked (from both HF and G). We stopped our subscriptions and now we meal plan a week in advance and if we want inspiration we choose some random meals from the cards and make sure we have the ingredients next time we go shopping.

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CyclicDombo t1_j91mpw0 wrote

Looks like the ‘European’ category is getting skewed by an outlier point due to its small sample size (I’m guessing only 1 or 2 recipes fell into this category?) curious to see what that is

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dosequis83 t1_j928wva wrote

What about the rotten shrimp that show up 3 days? Toss straight into the trash. Where’s that rank?

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ilikefactorygames t1_j92n6ww wrote

When I saw the title I thought this would be about plastic waste

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kschaffes t1_j92un2o wrote

I just hate the amount of emails they’ve sent me despite me repeatedly unsubscribing

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Leippy t1_j92y1rh wrote

So proud 4 Korean dishes made it to the top favorites list. We have damn good food!

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Careless-Try-8622 t1_j93110c wrote

Calories per serving is not objective and doesn’t really make sense to compare.

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vit-D-deficiency t1_j935giq wrote

Thank you for giving me inspiration for a slide on my project report out!

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havaska t1_j93al8y wrote

This data is so wrong. Wtf is European if you have separate data for German, Italian etc. Also what is the difference between Nordic and Scandinavian?

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jakeman8888 OP t1_j93hbl2 wrote

Yeah you’re not wrong, however this is how they use it so I left it as is.

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sockowl t1_j93c1cp wrote

I would love something that compared the cost of these kits to the cost of buying the ingredients at the store, haha. The only times I've used these kits is when I can get a good deal because holy cow are they ever pricey!

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jakeman8888 OP t1_j93g8iz wrote

This is something I’ve considered as an extension of this is the track their offers and compare them to determine which offers the best discount. Since they offer return discounts and stuff it seems you can just bounce deal to deal and eat cheap $$$

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sockowl t1_j964lcz wrote

They do track you by credit card number and address, so it can be hard to get a lot of the deals as they're designed for new clients.

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jakeman8888 OP t1_j965gpq wrote

I figured as much, I did look at this actually. Hello Fresh is extremely friendly with all the data they provide on their website, you can actually tell if an offer is intended for new users only or not purely based on their api responses.

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quadrangle3136 t1_j93fv5l wrote

'amerocan' and 'european' are the same thing, right?

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Marfleboxtrousers t1_j94skkn wrote

There should be something on how often you had to use the zester! 😂

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christopherwillow t1_j94t42x wrote

Okay but why is Mediterranean and Italian separate?

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sajde t1_j959mb7 wrote

„Powered by Quicksight“… I was looking for Quicksight and found something @ AWS. But it’s incredibly expensive. Is there a way to use Quicksight for like $10 a month or less?

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jakeman8888 OP t1_j964s4o wrote

You can use a standard author license for $9, it’s not as clear of an option but it’s there. Quicksight is good IMO, a little learning curve and maybe not as “visually” inclined as tableau but it’s an option that integrates well with sources and is quick to produce.

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sajde t1_j97p4p8 wrote

thanks, I will have a look for the $9 option!

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hemingwaygirl7 t1_j95e4g9 wrote

The colors in the pie chart repeat.

i.e., You’re using the same color for American, African, and French.

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Libertuslp t1_j95m6sd wrote

Ah yes my favorite ingredient "cooking"

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Present_Proposal4581 t1_j96dc65 wrote

I had to cancel hello fresh because I couldn’t take another meal centered around their beloved scallions and sour cream triangles.

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jakeman8888 OP t1_j983ypo wrote

Something interesting I found was the overlapping nature of their recipe definitions, and this clearly shows and you feel it once you're a customer for a while.

https://i.imgur.com/wTKWmYS.png

Some recipe's have multiple varieties despite being considered new recipes based on having slight variations.

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aoifuyu t1_j9a0p3i wrote

Great compilation of details! Which market is this data from? HelloFresh is available in many countries around the world and their recipe offering is different in each one of them.

I’d assume this is US based data?

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BadBunnyYonaguni t1_j91sv4f wrote

Asian like and European like are tags hello fresh uses. OP explained this in their comment.

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