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Quiet-Luck t1_j8eee3a wrote

I'm flabbergasted that you only spend $4500 in a year on groceries. That's only $86 a week. I think I spend at least 50% more.

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mandox1 OP t1_j8ege4w wrote

It's a percentage of my income, so the actual dollar values may vary a bit here.

I will say I tried and failed to live off $10 a day, in an attempt to save even more.

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whatisthisdawg t1_j8ecau1 wrote

so little for entertainment :(

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mandox1 OP t1_j8ecxxx wrote

It was quite a surprise to me, and having the percent based view really showcases it.

A major contributor that was lacking from other years was a vacation. I did not travel or go anywhere last year. It was quite dull.

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718cs t1_j8eetlx wrote

Damn that’s so little on entertainment. I’m already past $1500 for this year alone. I should travel less

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mandox1 OP t1_j8efmfp wrote

I agree. Putting the numbers together and seeing the result certainly shocked me. Looking to change that this year!

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French_Soup t1_j8ee9rf wrote

How did you manage a whole year with just $1k in shopping?

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mandox1 OP t1_j8eg7qx wrote

Well, the visual is a percentage. Actual values may vary a bit. I don't really indulge too much. Maybe I need to start treating myself better.

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mandox1 OP t1_j8ec67n wrote

Made with https://sankeymatic.com/build/

All values and data taken from US W2 tax forms, IRS tax return info, employer pay stubs and bank statements.

Expenses are for a low CoL location for a single male, early 30s.

Decided to show all expenses as a percentage of my base income. Not sure if this gives a better picture or not. I make these each year as a product of managing my finances, but only share occasionally.

A few notes:

No cellphone bill. Employer pays that.

Groceries includes food, hygiene, and cleaning products.

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KaesekopfNW t1_j8eeyyi wrote

>No cellphone bill. Employer pays that.

Not out of the goodness of their heart, I imagine. Are you using the company phone for your personal use? If so, I'd advise against that.

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mandox1 OP t1_j8efiko wrote

I only retain the one phone. Have for the past 10 years.

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st4n13l t1_j8edbh8 wrote

That's one expensive deck

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mandox1 OP t1_j8efx95 wrote

Well, I don't think it was really expensive. As a percentage, it may seem high. I did not break down the actual contractor cost because it wasn't itemized. The contract included a new 210 sq ft deck (composite), with new 6' patio door.

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DollopDaysie t1_j8f8qv1 wrote

Relatively low cost for housing

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mandox1 OP t1_j8j90gu wrote

Housing is quite cheap. I have a small 2br, 1 bath house. The above percentage for mortgage + taxes is with a couple thousand in extra payments to the principle as well.

Side effect of living in a 17k population low CoL city.

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xDiestax t1_j8fidx7 wrote

The chart is very pretty, but I have trouble reading the info. Love the colors used. I like the idea behind this data. It shows hours of work.

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peter303_ t1_j8g8at6 wrote

Whats the scale factor to get dollars?

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mandox1 OP t1_j8j7zbb wrote

For those curious, it's something like multiply by 940 and you'll get an equivalent in dollars.

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cheapsexandfastfood t1_j8l9ty4 wrote

I think this being a % of income is less interesting.

You already get that info from looking at the relative sizes of the bars but it could mean you are great at budgeting or terrible with very expensive taste in decks

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mandox1 OP t1_j8le475 wrote

I think I prefer the actual dollar value visual more too, but I also liked calculating the exact percentages that my expenses took up. As far as the deck goes, you are the second to comment on the price/proportion. It is quite vexing, as the price was very much on the low side as far as contractor bids went, and it wasn’t anything special.

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Vakulum t1_j8rbmni wrote

Question on general at the community regarding tracking your household spending:

What categories do you use? I always start tracking my expenses but then either have way too many categories making it tedious af or too few categories do the data isn't that useful.

Why advice on a set of categories working well for you?

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mandox1 OP t1_j8srmxe wrote

Since I only use a single checking account and single credit card for all of my purchases, I sort the purchases by vendor type: grocery stores, retail shops, etc. These essentially become my major categories and I then break them down further if necessary.

Purchases may get lumped together if a single store has crossover between product types (think of grocery stores selling food items and personal/grooming items, etc). I won't itemize receipts in these cases. It really comes down to how diligent you want to be with the data, and as you said it can become tedious.

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debunk_this_12 t1_j8z1gre wrote

What state r u living in where you only pay 24% income tax. My ass is around 45% and I make a comparable amount

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guymn999 t1_j8ezjn4 wrote

You never go out to eat and only spend 370 a month in groceries?

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mandox1 OP t1_j8f17c9 wrote

I cook and prepare the vast majority of meals at home.

The few times I did dine out were either: paid for by friends/family, paid for by my work, or I paid cash and did not track it. I had only a few hundred dollars in untracked cash purchases throughout the year, and not all were for dining out. Credit/debit cards show no food or restaurant transactions outside of my primary grocer, butcher, and a handful of trips to Walmart.

The visual and all numbers are in % of my base income; base income is just the sum %, so 100%. Actual cash values may differ as my income is not $100,000.

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guymn999 t1_j8f2so7 wrote

So you likely spent less than that in groceries? It just doesn't seem to add up.

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mandox1 OP t1_j8f6dac wrote

Well, that is what it all added up to!

Comparing it to the prior 2 years, this number is between the two, despite inflation. It's very consistent, actually.

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Eleventh_Barista t1_j8gyi90 wrote

I don't understand how some people spend more then 300 a month on food tbh, I spend our ably 50-70$ a week on food only because I prep all my meals for the week lunch and dinner

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guymn999 t1_j8gyso5 wrote

Not everyone wants to prep their meals or like to cook for that matter.

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mandox1 OP t1_j8j8jio wrote

This is similar to what I do. I cook 2-3 times per week for dinner. Each time I cook there are leftovers for 1-2 additional dinners. Lunches (or breakfast, I only do two meals per day) are also very cheap for me.

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