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DunkinRadio t1_j1uqxkl wrote

So the earth is flat. Right.

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BearDen17 t1_j1urq9k wrote

Lol, big brain time! I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to immediately think of our special flat earther friends. Bless their hearts.

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retromullet t1_j1uvta1 wrote

What part of HOLOGRAM do you NOT UNDERSTAND? Globehead...

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Toastbuns t1_j1vbjyl wrote

Obviously it's the fish eye lens effect. The light reflects off all the fish eyes in the water between boston and the cape, causing this distortion and making us think the surface of the planet has a curve. The more fish out swimming the more distortion and therefore curve.

The easiest way to see this will be when global warming and ocean acidification (which doesn't exist by the way) causes a mass extinction in the oceans, fully depleting them of fish life. At this point the effect will be gone and you will see the full height of the buildings. We can already see this happening due to overfishing (which also doesn't exist) causing you to be able to see the buildings today where as 500 years ago, when more fish eyes were in the water, the tops of the buildings were not visible from the cape.

/s

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crm115 t1_j1uuscm wrote

Well I guess it bends that way but the horizon isn't bending so... the earth is a CYLINDER!

/s

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FourAM t1_j1uyqu0 wrote

It’s obviously the waves and your perspective, maaaaaannnnnnnn /s

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hdjunkie t1_j1uzngr wrote

Haha I posted something similar before seeing this as the top comment

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cwmma t1_j1vg6iq wrote

So you'd think this would be solid proof but the atmosphere refracts light (curves it downward) so the math never quite added up before that was taken into account and you would be able to see things much farther away then you should just based on geometry.

Also anytime there is real proof they just come up with more outlandish explanations

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ahecht t1_j1vfbt7 wrote

Something something Fata Morgana something something /s

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rushfan420 t1_j1ut4hv wrote

that's amazing op. could you see them with just a clear eye or is this magnified?

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kuukiechristo73 t1_j1uxyff wrote

I’m guessing it must be, it’s 50 miles. But I’m here to find out.

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BasilExposition75 t1_j1vjgo1 wrote

Sometimes light bends depending on atmospheric conditions. That is what mirages are.

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bossrabbit t1_j1wrjfl wrote

Judging by the size of the buildings in the picture, it looks like it was taken with one hell of a zoom lens

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IdkWhatIwant895 t1_j1uwfdy wrote

So this means you can see cape cod from the john hancock?

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spokchewy t1_j1uy3jk wrote

If there were skyscrapers, it might be a lot easier.

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thomase7 t1_j1vmcek wrote

There is the pilgrim tower, you can see that from our beach in Plymouth.

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justlikethewwdove t1_j1w2rbp wrote

Yup but probably only the hills of Ptown and Truro. Everything else is too far. I'm not sure where on the cape this photo was taken but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ptown

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Id_Solomon t1_j1wnatw wrote

Cool! So it's like Todd Howard said --

"See that X over there? You can Y it."

r/gaming

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oogaboogaaa2 t1_j1uw7gu wrote

It’s FULLY visible from Cape Ann. We win.

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InfiniteBlink t1_j1utsrg wrote

Where on the cape? Ptown?

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Horknut1 t1_j1uu3cs wrote

From the other thread “This was from a whale watching boat exiting the Ptown harbor (probably around Long Point). It was shot with an Olympus em5-II with the 40-150 2.8 + 2x teleconverter.”

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kynov t1_j1v79df wrote

This doesn't seem right. The distance from the Prudential to Long Point would be 51 miles. This would obscure 1,481 feet of height (assuming the person is about 10 feet of above the water on the boat). The Prudential is only 750 feet to the roof (920 to the top of the antenna). Looking at the pic, it looks like about 1/5th of the building is visible so we can estimate that only 150 feet is visible and 600 feet obscured. This means that the photo would have to have been taken at a distance of around 33-35 miles depending on how high above the water they are. 10 feet for a small fishing boat. 15-20 feet for a large one.

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Horknut1 t1_j1vagxq wrote

I think you're missing some modifiers to your calculations. First, he said he's on a boat (likely "doing flips and shit"), so, depending on the size of the whale watching boat, he could be 20/30 feet off the surface of the water.

Also, isn't there a refractory situation with looking to the horizon? I thought I read under the right conditions, even at sea level, you could see buildings 50 miles off.

I mean, do you think this guy is lying?

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ahecht t1_j1vfwkt wrote

To see any of the Pru (excluding the antenna) from 51 miles, ignoring refractory stuff, you'd need to be 200ft up. That said, refraction can do some pretty weird things, Famously, when you get the temperature inversions just right, you can see Toronto from NY State.

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b1ack1323 t1_j1vgwme wrote

Does changing tides have any effect on that?

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ahecht t1_j1vhlme wrote

If you're on a boat, at low tide you'd be able to see 10 more feet of a building in Boston than you can at high tide. If you're on the shore it might be more like 20 feet. In any case, it's a pretty insignificant effect.

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sir_mrej t1_j1w2gwz wrote

> he's on a boat (likely "doing flips and shit")

This is one of the best sly references I've seen

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_Lane_ t1_j1x42uh wrote

Huh. I was thinking he was enjoy carnal knowledge with a mermaid, but yeah, could also be doing flips and shit, too.

(For real: I cannot hear anyone say they are / were on a boat without that song playing. It has both ruined actually being on boats while at the same time it made talking about being on boats awesome.)

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Horknut1 t1_j1vb5ag wrote

https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/1qcj5j/boston_skyline_as_seen_from_the_provincetown/

Interesting related thread, because this picture is from somewhere near 250 feet above ground level, at the top of the Pilgrim Monument.

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CommonNotCommons t1_j1vtu9r wrote

This sent me down a rabbit hole. There are in fact many pictures on this sub over the years of Boston’s skyline from Provincetown. My guess is it has to do with light refraction, because I no longer doubt this view does exist.

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cwmma t1_j1vgfrc wrote

The atmosphere refracts light (curves it downward) so you can see things farther then geometry/trig implies

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BasilExposition75 t1_j1vjnlp wrote

Light can bend in the air depending upon atmospheric conditions. This is why people see mirages.

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richie_cunningham212 t1_j1vbi9l wrote

Yeah, I mean, you did all the work here but also just from my straight simpleton opinion it doesn't seem right. I've never heard that you could see the city from the Cape in all my years around both areas.

Plus something looks funky with the building on the far right. Like its transparency gradient is bleeding into the water appearing like it's edited.

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CommonNotCommons t1_j1vty35 wrote

Oh well, as long as you’ve never heard it.

Also that’s image compression.

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b1ack1323 t1_j1vhgk0 wrote

750 from ground. 775 from sea level. Not that it matters much.

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b1ack1323 t1_j1vja7l wrote

You might have a error unless I have an error:
KcurveEffect * (distance) + elevation = height visible in line of sight at a given distance
1.22 * (82 km) + 3m = 103.04m
100.04m + 3m = 103.04m (338.05 feet)

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hairy_scarecrow t1_j1uzmgu wrote

Another great view of boston is from Niles Beach in Gloucester.

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Pokedude1110 t1_j1vc67b wrote

Suck on this one, flat earthers!

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BobSacamano47 t1_j1xfuzs wrote

Tbh you sound like a bitch who doesn't know about light curvature and water mountains.

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hdjunkie t1_j1uzjsu wrote

Wait, if the earth is flat we should be able to see the bottom of those buildings!

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retromullet t1_j1uvqbd wrote

This is AWESOME! Such a cool shot.

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Photog1981 t1_j1v201f wrote

How zoomed in was this picture?

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mr_mrak t1_j1ypj1l wrote

From another comment, it was a 150mm lens on a micro 4/3 sensor with a 2x teleconverter. So 150x2x2 = 600mm equivalent. Which is quite zoomed in but nothing crazy.

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kauisbdvfs t1_j1xa5xe wrote

That's.... actually really cool.

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SpindriftRascal t1_j1wa6xz wrote

What lens is that? I’ve never seen Boston from Provincetown. I’m a bit skeptical. (Except maybe from the monument.)

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jelsomino t1_j1x3tnb wrote

I remember seeing Hull from Swampscott's Phillips Beach during the height of Covid epidemic. Air was incredibly clean that summer

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Zaius1968 t1_j1x8hlp wrote

I guess the earth is round…!

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lycon3 t1_j1y66xg wrote

Take that, Kyrie.

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Id_Solomon t1_j1wlmxs wrote

The TOP of the Boston skyline???

Okay. So this is proof that the Earth is round.

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tbass12 t1_j1w5cu6 wrote

I fish tuna off of p-town frequently - you cannot see Boston from the cape….

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_Lane_ t1_j1x4f9a wrote

You need to be on the side closer to Boston, not the side closer to Portugal.

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tbass12 t1_j1x4n2f wrote

Haha - I fish the whole area all over stellwagen bank cape cod bay east of ptown etc - you Cannot see Boston from the cape…..

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-flame-retardant- t1_j1z5m1p wrote

It's called a superior mirage, and it causes light refraction when warm air travels over cold water. Light bends around the curvature of the earth.

https://imgur.com/IlPla6P.jpg

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tbass12 t1_j21b2yi wrote

I have no doubt that superior mirage is such a thing - the buildings look nothing like the Boston skyline….

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-flame-retardant- t1_j21iej0 wrote

Here's an image from 10 years earlier with the same spacing between buildings.

https://imgur.com/O4UrhXF.jpg

The placement is exactly what you'd expect to see looking from the south-southeast of the Pru and the Hancock.

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