Submitted by -something_something t3_zvr666 in books

Agatha Christie's novels feel so cozy, like hanging out with a friend while they solve a dilemma. I can rely on Christie to give me a mystery where all the pieces are there, you just have to pay enough attention to the details of people’s personalities to put them all together. She also writes entertaining characters to interact with her detectives. And she can still keep you guessing! The path to the inevitable conclusion is always just as fun and entertaining as finally getting to solve the mystery at the end.

From a remote island to a snow-stalled train car, she favored locations isolated from society. By restricting the scope of her stories, Christie limited possible suspects and built tension by forcing characters to stay put— even with a killer among them.

Sometimes she further heightened the drama by making the characters strangers, unsure of who they can trust. But while her settings are eerie and extraordinary, her characters are just the opposite.

One of the biggest criticisms of Christie’s novels is that they’re full of two-dimensional people. But Christie avoided complex characters for a reason. By reducing people to a handful of simple traits, she provided readers with predictable suspects. Well, usually predictable. Christie also used the audience's expectations against them.

However, this typecasting sometimes relied on what contemporary readers know to be harmful stereotypes. She frequently caricatured particular occupations and ethnic groups for comic effect, reinforcing the prejudices of her time.

This is certainly not an element of Christie’s work worth emulating, and fortunately, many modern mystery writers have found less problematic ways to use this technique. Even when she got it wrong, Christie worked to make her characters feel authentic.

She closely observed the people around her and constantly scribbled down details from overheard conversations. She would then rearrange these details to piece her mysteries together, often switching who the murderer was as she worked. This approach kept information murky and disoriented even to the sharpest readers.

However, there’s an important balance to strike between being clever and being confusing. Nobody wants to read a predictable mystery, but if things get too convoluted you can lose your reader altogether. Christie handled this in part by keeping her language simple and accessible. She used short sentences and clear, snappy dialogue to help readers follow the information. This kind of clarity is essential because the best mysteries string their audience along with a carefully laid trail of clues.

When a character cries that “Everything tastes foul today,” just minutes before he dies, the reader races to determine who poisoned his beverage. But they’re likely failing to truly consider this clue. If everything tasted foul that day, then he’d been poisoned long before that drink.

Christie also used clues to intentionally mislead her audience. For example, readers might recognize a clue associated with one suspect, only to learn that it was being used to frame them. Other times, she built misdirection directly into the story’s structure— like when a narrator reporting the murder is revealed to be the killer.

Outside crime and clues, there’s one more ingredient in Christie’s formula: the detective. Christie created many sleuths, but her most enduring are Hercule Poirot and Miss Jane Marple. Neither this petit Belgian refugee nor this elderly amateur detective is a traditional hero. But their outsider status is exactly what helps them slip past security and make suspects let their guard down.

With Christie, a good clue is one the reader will remember, but usually, fail to completely understand that is what I think made her one of the greatest.

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LamarJimmerson85 t1_j1qnzle wrote

A lot of Poirot are essentially puzzles, with the same pieces in different arrangements. The characters are all largely stock character 'types', but they're always enjoyable and it allows for misdirection because we expect certain types to behave in certain ways.

Christie is also surprisingly funny. The Poirot novels that include Ariadne Oliver are good fun.

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LimitlessMegan t1_j1sq72o wrote

I love Ariadne, I particularly like her in the David Suchet TV series.

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kjb76 t1_j21plon wrote

I read somewhere that she’s spoofing herself with Ariadne Oliver. Apparently the constant eating apples was something Christie did.

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LamarJimmerson85 t1_j21pyyi wrote

She is. The character is to make fun of herself, and address things people have said about her.

And in Partners in Crime, Christie has Tommy and Tuppence reference/imitate different fictional detectives, including Poirot.

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saint_davidsonian t1_j1rga8s wrote

I just figured I'd say, how can so many people like her books when there aren't even any elves or hobbits in them? Not even a single wizard or second breakfast.

Edit: Damn. People can't take a joke on here.

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Oxidative t1_j1s5mzd wrote

This made me laugh. Sorry that other redditors can't read between the lines. Kind of funny in a post about mystery novels.

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spleedge t1_j1sc3js wrote

It’s obvious sarcasm (those downvotes are unwarranted) but very random/irrelevant lol

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Oxidative t1_j1sz0md wrote

That's true, but people are always saying random shit in real conversation. I saw it as a comment of mock-surprise as this subreddit usually is very fantasy/sci-fi centric.

I thought it added to the convo in an absurd way

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spleedge t1_j1szosn wrote

I guess so haha it just kind of seems like a random shot at specifically Tolkien fans when nothing like that at all is really a common viewpoint of the sub (but again… shouldn’t be downvoted, just sort of funny)

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Monsieur_Moneybags t1_j1y2qou wrote

You would think that supposedly well-read people wouldn't need to be hit over the head with the /s, but here we are.

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simplisticwords t1_j1qvi4q wrote

You might be interested in the genre “Cozy Mysteries”. It’s similar to Dame Christie’s.

There’s a series by Zara Keane called “Movie Club Mysteries” that remind me of Agatha Christie’s style.

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Agreeable-Roof7429 t1_j1r8vag wrote

For me, the ultimate in cozy mysteries is any book in the Mrs. Pollifax series!

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TheGlassCat t1_j1sc993 wrote

The Cat Who..... books are also very cozy.

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Agreeable-Roof7429 t1_j1sec13 wrote

Oh yes!! Someone recently recommended that series to me and I've been meaning to check it out!

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LawyerBear t1_j1sy48r wrote

Not OP, but I started reading The Cat Who... books when I was around 13, and as a 32-year old, I still think fondly of the series. It's quaint and cozy and definitely worth checking out!

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Ruthniss t1_j1ur8jw wrote

More of s Mrs Murphy fan myself but they are ways great when ive had enough of strange settings and need to feel safe (fantasy sci-fi and horror fan too lol)

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Wolf6120 t1_j1rsq1c wrote

Great recommendation, definitely gonna look into those! (Also for future reference, when using someone's chivalric honorific, the custom is to use either their full name, or first name only. So it would be Dame Agatha Christie, or just Dame Agatha. Just like how Sir David Attenborough is Sir David.)

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Far-Calligrapher-465 t1_j1s002o wrote

For anyone interested Movie club mysteries is currently available for free as an ebook on amazon.

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sje46 t1_j1sau2z wrote

I've been wanting to create a blog where I read one chapter at a time, trying to document all the possible clues, and then trying to reason out the actual solution.

Am a bit worried about all the people in this thread saying that's impossible to do with Christie. Are these other series more solvable?

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BewilderedandAngry t1_j1sgbot wrote

I think that sounds like a fun thing to do. I wouldn't worry about it being solvable or unsolvable.

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simplisticwords t1_j1u4l90 wrote

I would definitely subscribe and read a blog like that. Especially if it’s a story you’ve never read before, it’d be interesting to see what clues you pick up on (and maybe you’ll find something that we’ve missed in our untold re-reads lol).

Go for it!

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udaeus_echion t1_j213cpq wrote

A lot of the original Ellery Queen novels include a challenge to the reader when you have all the information needed to solve the mystery.

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matsie t1_j1s2fo5 wrote

I love TE Kinsey’s Lady Hardcastle series!!

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TheGlassCat t1_j1sci6v wrote

Reading the name "Kinsey" brings up memories of the alphabet mysteries.

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xforgottenxflamex t1_j1srw6d wrote

My favorite cozy mysteries are the death on demand series about a lady who runs a mystery bookstore called death on demand and the cat who… series. Both are fantastic

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Simppu12 t1_j1qwhcp wrote

I love Poirot novels, but one thing that gets predictable and frustrating after a few of them is that there is rarely an actual way for the reader to guess what happened. Usually Poirot does some incredible deduction off the pages, and then presents his findings to both the suspects and the reader.

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drosodoc t1_j1rbpiv wrote

I disagree. I think Christie is one mystery author who rarely cheats by withholding clues. It’s all there on the page. It may be subtle and require great deductions, but you can do it. I estimate my own success rate at around 50/50 or slightly higher. The ones I miss I can almost always remember back and kick myself for missing it.

Arthur Conan Doyle, on the other hand, withheld information from basically all of his Sherlock Holmes stories. There’s a reason he titled so many of them “The Adventure of…” You’re supposed to marvel at Holmes, not solve a mystery.

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_byaugust t1_j1rd7mk wrote

I actually don't recall this ever happening. Can you give some examples of Poirot novels where the clue is withheld? I remember being mind blown at each one when I was younger because it really felt like she had given you everything, would be interesting to go back and take a look.

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ascagnel____ t1_j1s5er6 wrote

The Murder of Roger Akroyd definitely has this issue.

Of course, it’s somewhat more acceptable in that novel specifically because >!(a) the narrator is the murderer and (b) it’s the only time she plays that particular card.!<

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Hartastic t1_j1to3xz wrote

I can think of one more (b) in Christie but it's not a Poirot.

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FifthWill t1_j1toajl wrote

>!She pulled thar card in at least one more story. But I cannot tell you which one here, because that would be a massive spoiler...!< Keep on reading.

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TuxedoSlave t1_j1rq2rs wrote

Hickory Dickory Dock might have been a bit clearer in its time but to me it totally went off the rails. I don’t know how to mark spoilers but even after the explanation it was still confusing.

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CrazyCatLady108 t1_j1swctq wrote

Place >! !< around the text you wish to hide. You will need to do this for each new paragraph. Like this:

&gt;!The Wolf ate Grandma!&lt;

Click to reveal spoiler.

>!The Wolf ate Grandma!<

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TuxedoSlave t1_j1swnw3 wrote

>!All of a sudden there was smuggling involved! Like I guess based on Enid Blyton maybe smuggling was a big thing back then? But to me going from “he was in the back shed and bought a backpack” to “he was part of a large international smuggling ring” was not an obvious jump.!<

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Simppu12 t1_j1re2ak wrote

It's been a while since I've read them, but Cards on the Table annoyed me the most with it as >!Poirot hires an actor at the end to bait the killer or something!<, but I feel like it happens in most Poirot novels. In Orient Express, for example, there is the part where it's noted that >!a bag wasn't actually covering a lock!<, which is fair enough, but it's hardly enough to deduce who the killer is.

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My_Poor_Nerves t1_j1rix8b wrote

I think Poirot's tricks to out the killer were usually moreso to get an admission of guilt in front of an audience than to actually figure out who done it

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Froakiebloke t1_j1rh478 wrote

One good trick for Christies is that she loves to have simple motives at the end of the day; a husband wants his wife out his way so he can remarry, a simple trick to come into some money. Often a character will be suspicious since they obviously benefit from the crime, but due to the particular mechanics or circumstances it seems like it can’t be them. The core to the solution then ends up being the explanation of how it was physically possible for them to do it.

Another good trick- >!never trust people who apparently hate each other! Christie loves to reveal that a pair of perfect enemies are in fact putting up a front, disguising the fact that they’re co-conspirators!<

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anonykitten29 t1_j1rw38a wrote

Yes! She went to the perfect-alibi well rather a lot. Only took me like 20 years of reading her to catch the pattern, lol.

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Below_the_Fold t1_j1r1ta8 wrote

This is what frustrated me the most about those books. No matter how much attention you were paying, you were never able to solve the crime yourself because she always left out vital information.

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samiam221b t1_j1ra898 wrote

While I also agree they are impossible to solve, Christie herself actually made sure in her books to provide the reader with all the clues the detective had. There is no hidden information. Can I make the same leaps as the detective does? God no. But all the puzzle pieces are given to you!

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alienfreaks04 t1_j1r3pfu wrote

I hate last second information that is given to seem like it's a twist

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zmast t1_j1uvvcw wrote

I agree.

Unfortunately, after reading all books and watching all TV episodes, my memories are sparse. So, I'm not 100% sure if this happens on both book and TV or books are "fair". But I believe these are examples:

>!Poirot had telegraphed her secretary trough her discovered that 2 people got married, only reveals it at the end.!<

>!Poirot knew the exact train timetable and was able to make deductions based on that.!<

>!In at least a couple of stories, events were related to an accident happened years before that was not fully presented. (Murder on the Orient Express)!<

>!In Curtains... well, you know what Poirot did.!<

Then, there are obstacles like very specific knowledge that a reader is unlikely to have. For instance, knowing how a poison works or the currency used in a foreign country.

All in all, I believe Christie's stories are usually not solvable while reading the book. But they're always enjoyable. I like the richness in details and I find the characters more relatable. I have not enjoyed much Conan Doyle stories, to the point I feel the most famous detective should be Poirot instead of Sherlock Holmes.

Apologies for my vague examples, I'm happy to edit and add references if someone can remember which book they happen on.

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kim_il_succ t1_j1qzpg0 wrote

My only wish is that Hastings played more of a role in more stories. I suppose she limited his inclusion to dissuade readers from making more Sherlock Holmes comparisons. Her stories are all lovely. I recently read Dumb Witness, I really enjoyed it! Sometimes her most popular works like Murder on the Orient Express and Death on the Nile can cast a shadow on the hidden gems.

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ekpheartsbooks t1_j1ra21x wrote

And I feel the opposite about Hastings! I find it incredibly annoying that he continually discounts Poirot even though poirot proves him wrong at every turn. I do agree about hidden gems tho. Murder in Retrospect is one of my favorites!

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Hartastic t1_j1rjjr5 wrote

I always felt like she felt like she had to give Poirot a Watson, but very quickly discovered she did not enjoy writing Hastings, who often comes across as "Watson, but dumb and with no helpful skills."

Granted, I also think Curtain would not have been nearly as good without the foundation she DID lay with Hastings in earlier books.

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musicnothing t1_j20o57x wrote

My favorite part of Hastings is how dumb Poirot always tells other people he is

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Hiscuteblondewife t1_j1s4kog wrote

I only care that AC included Poirot in more scenes in certain novels. The other characters aren’t as funny and endearing as him. Sometimes I would read through certain novels thinking when is he gonna appear?

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humburglar t1_j1rmtzq wrote

I've been reaching all of the Miss Marple mysteries and they are addictive. She's underestimated by everyone except the smartest people and she uses that to her advantage. As the series progresses, she ages and sees how her little community is changing.

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EmphasisCheap8611 t1_j1ss3r6 wrote

Miss Marple is the best. A keen observer of life and comes a long way from the stereotypical arm chair detective. I find her more impressive than Mycroft from Sherlock Holmes.

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mrnicebobby t1_j1uro6k wrote

My suggestion would be The Thirteen Problems, if you haven’t got around to it. I’m not usually a Miss Marple fan, I’m way more into Poirot, but this one is one I can pick up any day for a quick reread.

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thetantalus t1_j1qqnvs wrote

Thanks for writing this up, you reminded me that I really need to pick up a Christie book. I’ve yet to read one. (I know.)

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LeadSled86 t1_j1rn95c wrote

I have done And Then There Were None and Murder on the Orient Express. Both were absolutely fantastic. This post reminded me it's time to drop in on the good Dame's inquisitive Poirot once again!

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roninPT t1_j1sb1mn wrote

Poirot's Christmas is one of my favorites, and fits into the season

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crackerbarreldudley t1_j1sdk60 wrote

I just finished that one! It was a great little read. Some really hilarious lines, like, "No, sir, your father is most certainly dead" (or something along those lines). And Poirot's infatuation with the officer's moustache!

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vikingchyk t1_j1stl31 wrote

I just read a short Poirot : The Adventure of the Christmas Pudding

Scandalous ending! >!He got kissed under the mistletoe! !<

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theonewhoknock_s t1_j1ttzz6 wrote

These are the only two I've read, but now I'm itching to grab another one and get into it. Watching Glass Onion a few days ago and now this post have got me into the mood for a good ol' mystery.

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Saruster t1_j1tf32e wrote

Hers were the first books I picked for myself at the library when I was a new reader. I’ve adored her books for 40+ years now. During the pandemmy, when the world was going crazy and I felt like I’d lost control of everything, I turned to watching the Poirot and Marple TV shows as my “comfort viewing.” There was something so soothing about watching a show I’d seen 100 times and where I knew exactly what was going to happen, who was going to say what, etc. David Suchet got me through it!

When people call her books “timeless” they aren’t exaggerating. The early Poirot books were set between WWI and WWII, then later post WWII and the Marple books were set in the 1950s but the stories could just as easily take place today. (I always wonder WTF was going on in Christie’s head where she came up with these plots. Amazing)

I have all her books on my kindle and read when I need to take a break from reality. I also have her audiobooks narrated by Hugh Fraser and when I have trouble sleeping, I have him talk me to sleep. Works like a charm!

Re-reading this, I think I’m seriously addicted to Agatha Christie stories.

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crackerbarreldudley t1_j1sde2l wrote

My spouse and I recently read/listened through an audio book for Orient Express (our first Christie book) and thoroughly enjoyed it! I've never liked murder mysteries, but I really enjoy hers.

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mrnicebobby t1_j1urxsw wrote

Other than the ones already suggested, I’d chime in with The Secret of Chimneys and The Murder of Roger Ackroyd.

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BereniceFleming t1_j1rmb2f wrote

Agatha Christie passed away almost 50 years ago but her detective works are still the best. I can't find anything as excellent as Christie's novels among modern authors. It's hard to count how many breakthrough elements she brought to the genre. Ordeal by Innocence, Five Little Pigs and Taken at the Flood are my favorite.

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Icy_Respect_9077 t1_j1s48p0 wrote

There's something of Hercule Poirot in the character of Benoit Blanc (Glass Onion on Netflix). Elegant dresser, somewhat fussy, and mostly, involved in the drama of tge case.

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ezluckyfreeeeee t1_j1sme09 wrote

I thought Benoit Blanc was a direct reference to Poirot.

Also the first Knives Out is a better mystery, I'd recommend it.

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Dadbat69 t1_j1t6ho8 wrote

100% agree. Even though Poirot and Blanc are from two different countries (although their names may not suggest), you can just tell they are the same person and no doubt was inspired by Christie novels. I hope to see more of these movies made!

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sje46 t1_j1sb7hl wrote

Watched that movie yesterday. Definitely very good. I'm liking that there's now an American entry to the canon of world-famous-detectives after Sherlock and Hercule (I'm sure there are other, American ones, but I haven't heard of them).

Even though the actor himself isn't actually American. Still a very charming character.

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musicnothing t1_j20nxdb wrote

Adrian Monk is also a riff on Poirot. Not as good of writing in that series as Christie’s but an excellent character.

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boxer_dogs_dance t1_j1qmfvf wrote

Great review. Are you familiar with Dorothy Sayers? For mysteries from that era I like her better than Christie, although both are excellent. Just personal taste. I like how Sayers incorporates working people into her stories. I also like the romance she developed between Lord Peter Wimsy and Harriet Vane.

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-something_something OP t1_j1qo8tg wrote

Thank you.

And yes I have read Sayers she later turned in theological writing but I cannot say I have read all of them but she was probably the best-known and most beloved Golden Age author after Christie. While Agatha may have set the conventions for the plot, Sayers inspired dozens of fictional detectives with her creation, Lord Peter Wimsey. She is equally celebrated for Wimsey's love interest and eventual wife Harriet Vane, introduced in the dock for the murder of her lover in Strong Poison.

The Nine Tailors is my favorite book of hers. Highly recommended.

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violetsprouts t1_j1r6f2u wrote

Ngaio Marsh is also similar.

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JohnRCash t1_j1rwwod wrote

They're an interesting study in contrasts despite being such close contemporaries. Sayers did complex characters and was far more interested in playing with the language of her writing. Christie was all about the plot.

I love both.

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LoneWolfEkb t1_j1r6est wrote

"Agatha Christie's characters are stereotypes and caricatures, but they are not just that. They possess not simply two dimensions but two and a half. The little bit of fun gently poked at the "typical" figure, the slightly surprising or contradictory quality, the merest touch of real humanity—all make Christie's types just a bit more than cardboard puppets dancing to the choreography of the plot. In her characterization as in her puzzles, Christie found the perfect balance, the hallmark of the really skilled popular writer, between convention and invention. She gave her readers exactly what they anticipated, yet added just enough that was intriguingly new to keep them stimulated and absorbed."

From here: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/268163108.pdf

Robert Barnard's book about Agatha Christie, A Talent to Deceive, remains the best analysis of her. Tbh, the "average best" of Christie contains characterization depth that isn't much different from many modern crime writers.

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CyborgChicken t1_j1rix8d wrote

Agreed! Reading Christie is like coming home…. Well, if there were murder at home, I guess.

Not mysteries, but have you read Fannie Flagg? I don’t know the genre, but its just so soothing to read.

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Desdemona1231 t1_j1rglx1 wrote

Bravo. Yes. The simple greatness.

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izziecharlotte t1_j1rziam wrote

I had the incredible experience of playing Vera in my university's And Then There Were None, until I did that play I had no idea she could write such good comedy! So much fun

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rotating_pebble t1_j1rpp7z wrote

Brilliant post. As someone who has never read Agatha Christie but watched Poirot for as long as I can remember, you've really motivated me to give the books a read!

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musicnothing t1_j20oia3 wrote

The books are such easy reads, it’s almost like eating comfort food. As someone who also started out watching before reading, I definitely recommend giving the books a try.

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Dana07620 t1_j1rs5jl wrote

Christie's mysteries are literally the "cozy mystery" category. And I love the light feeling she has in most of them. I also love how accurately she portrays characters. It was Christie who introduced me to sociopaths...those oh so charming, without morals killers of hers. (Though I was a lot older than 13 when I finally realized that's what she had done.) I don't think the term "sociopath" had even been invented when she portrayed one back in the 1920s. I love Christie's mysteries. I've read them all. Novels and short stories. The older I get, the more I appreciate Christie's insight into human nature.

But when you say this...

>I can rely on Christie to give me a mystery where all the pieces are there.

No, you can't.

You want that? Read the early Ellery Queen novels and short stories. The ones with the "challenge to the reader" where you have to turn the page to get to the solution.

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TeacherPatti t1_j1rsbcf wrote

I finally read her books during the pandemic. I'm still finishing the Poirot mysteries. I absolutely love them! I've learned more about British social classes back then (with the servants and all) than ever before. It's really interesting to me!

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kjb76 t1_j21ro8h wrote

I read all the Poirots during the pandemic too. I’m American but have studied a lot of English history and read many English authors and I think that it’s possible to see the changes in the values and mores of England through the Poirot books.

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Aggressive_Chicken63 t1_j1rvqac wrote

If I can only read one novel of Agatha Christie, which one would you recommend?

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menlyn t1_j1tli5j wrote

And then there were none.

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Hartastic t1_j1tox2z wrote

ATTWN is a cool book but it's also really different than her norm.

It's less a mystery you can figure out and more like a classic horror movie almost.

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WooLaWoo t1_j1tqa0q wrote

That is a completely legitimate point, but it is SUCH a good book. I will always recommend it. After that? Anything Marple.

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musicnothing t1_j20olkz wrote

The ABC Murders. I can’t tell you why I like it without spoiling it but it’s a really fun read.

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Vanska1 t1_j1sdyne wrote

OMG I went through a definite Christy stage when I was a tween. I still love the idea of them though I havent read any in decades. I think they ultimately fostered my imagination so much that I went on to become a ridiculously voracious reader. The first time I read 'And then there were None' aka 10 little indians I just couldnt believe how great a story it was - might have been 12yo. Then I learned that it was originally called 10 little (N words) and that was hugely disappointing. (I get that it was a product of the times etc, please dont come after me) I was also reading Victoria Holt and all the Poirots - and just started reading Sci-Fi! so I just moved on but I still (guiltily) love those Agatha Christy books that started it all. Miss Marple also rocks.

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violetsprouts t1_j1r6ua1 wrote

You make an excellent point about the two-dimensional characters. You go into her books knowing someone is a killer, and you just don't know who. You're not supposed to get too invested in anyone because someone is going to turn out to be a murderer.

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Iatroblast t1_j1rnv4j wrote

Anybody can chime in here. What are your favorite Christie novels? I loved her in middle/high school and now I’m in my early 30s I started grabbing the occasional Christie from the library and a few of them have fallen really flat.

The ones I haven’t liked: Mysterious Affair at Styles, the Moving Finger

Ones I think I remember liking: the Clocks, The ABC Murders, Murder on the Orient Express, and And then there were None.

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chickzilla t1_j1rpt29 wrote

Endless Night is nearly a perfect story, in my opinion. Just perfection. Even knowing it, one can reread it.

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elthepenguin t1_j1rpwqs wrote

For me it’s probably The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, if I had to pick one. Because the solution blew me away the most.

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mrnicebobby t1_j1usji6 wrote

Yes! Extremely meta! I was lucky enough to suggest this one to a book club I was a part of, and one of the people there felt so betrayed about the revelation at the end… I can’t elaborate more because of spoiler territory, but suffice to say everybody else enjoyed both the book and this guy’s exasperation.

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Hartastic t1_j1toucf wrote

Mysterious Affair at Styles is one of the weaker Poirots, IMHO (also the first, so, maybe fair), although having read it pays off a bit if you ever make it as far as Curtain, which is the last Poirot and I think hits differently if you've read most of the other Poirots before it, especially the ones that include Hastings.

A few others I liked not on your list that I liked: Cards on the Table, Five Little Pigs, Death on the Nile.

The only one of the Poirot books in my opinion that is really bad is The Big Four, and maybe even that is just because it wasn't what I wanted. It's... basically a James Bond novel, written a generation before there were James Bond novels, except instead of James Bond as the international super spy it's... Poirot for some reason.

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Iatroblast t1_j1utq4f wrote

Nice that’s good to hear. I read Styles after a hiatus of many years and felt pretty deflated about Christie, who I had previously enjoyed. Then I read the Moving Finger and it was a little better, still not very good, but it was my first Marple story and she was hardly in it at all!

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Hartastic t1_j1ux02q wrote

Is Moving Finger the one where Miss Marple doesn't show up until like 70% of the way through the book?

I don't mind Miss Marple as a character but sometimes it does feel like Christie has to contrive a bit to justify why she needs to / can solve a mystery. Poirot, at least, was this famous former professional police officer / detective.

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alurlol t1_j1rq4l7 wrote

Which Christie book would you recommend for someone who’s new to murder mystery?

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jiggerriggeroo t1_j1rqqfq wrote

I’ve been finding it hard to get Christie books these days. They used to be everywhere but not anymore.

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Hiscuteblondewife t1_j1s48iq wrote

Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie never disappoints. I have yet to find a really good mystery writer that was as unique and satisfying.

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gizzyjones t1_j1say8t wrote

If y'all are fine with anime-style and REALLY long stories - I would recommend looking into the Umineko visual novel. It's fantastic.

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cMeeber t1_j1sbo6b wrote

Never read one. What’s a good one to try out?

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BereniceFleming t1_j1tvbd7 wrote

Try one of the most famous. Murder on the Orient Express, The A.B.C. Murders, Death on the Nile, And Then There Were None or Crooked House. 😉

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TheGlassCat t1_j1sc0rd wrote

I always return to Christie. My only gripe is that some of her books totally lack any denouement. Poirot presents his evidence, reveals the murderer and....THE END.

She doesn't always do that, but it's disconcerting when she does. I want to atleast see the other characters' reactions to the news.

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Evolone16 t1_j1sdasp wrote

Somehow, I’ve never read any of her books. I’ve been getting into mysteries more (through the Inspector Garmache novels by Louise Penny).

What Agatha Christie book should I start with?

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BereniceFleming t1_j1tv09b wrote

I would recommend And Then There Were None.

It's one of the most famous novels but without Christie's iconic detectives (so it is not necessary to start with the first novels about Hercule Poirot, Miss Marple or Tommy + Tuppence).

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chocoheed t1_j1sgfjy wrote

I haven’t been able to put my finger on why her books are so comforting. You’re absolutely right tho!

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ballsOfWintersteel t1_j1sx7h6 wrote

Agree with you fully! I love myself a Poirot story every few books. Books with Ariadne Oliver are the funniest.

I would also recommend Sherlock Holmes, if you haven't read them already. Christie mentioned SH and Watson as her inspiration for Poirot and Hastings.

The key difference is that Christie has murders invariably, whereas many SH stories have victimless crimes, even crimes that aren't clearly crimes by law. It makes it even more fun to solve such mysteries.

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constelationofcells t1_j1t18c7 wrote

For those who might like an American twist, Charlotte Armstrong was a woman writer from the same period and her books, while suffering from the gender and race stereotypes of that time (I.e the writer and readers are all assumed to be White) are absorbing. Patricia Wentworth has a similar governess character Miss Silver who is called in with deep respect to solve mysteries. Dorothy Sayers has far more erudite mysteries, as does Georgette Heyer of Regency Romance fame. Ngaio Marsh, being a New Zealander, was the least racist of the lot of that time, with her book Black as he is painted” actually using a central character who is African.

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dixie-pixie-vixie t1_j1t32wb wrote

I love Agatha Christie's novels. Each one is different, and I don't feel the reusing of a theme. Lovely books.

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nafissus t1_j1tv9if wrote

Thank you for you elegantly written review, You reminded me to pick on of her novels again. Few months ago I read the ABC murders followed by The murder of Roger Ackroyd ( the last made me want to throw the book off the window). Any suggestions of her least known works but as much enjoyable ?

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coder_tony t1_j1u0l0q wrote

I like your insight on Agatha Christie Books. I still vividly remember the first time when I read murder on the orient express. Because that feeling was something different back then. It was a really different style from other murder mystery books which I read then. And the fun part js I really enjoyed her style of writing. Tbh I only read a couple of her books which include Poirot so I still have a lot to read to understand her writing.

Ps: Is there any chronological order to read Agatha Christie's books? Because Idk and I am reading in random order so.

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katherinemma987 t1_j1u36fy wrote

I love that I’m not the only one that sees them as a comfort blanket. I’ve read them all at least once, have the audiobooks and adore the tv adaptations (suchet all the way) and I still enjoy them every time I start one. Honestly she was wonderful and also kinda bad ass making the whole country search for her when she disappeared.

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dazedcoder24 t1_j1umi5b wrote

Hey OP, I have read "And then there were none", Roger Ackryod, death on nile and Orient express of her. Which book of her I should read next? I love these close room murder mysteries.

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-something_something OP t1_j1v3i5b wrote

Hey, there are many great recommendations in this thread you can pick anyone. As for close room mystery you can try 'they do it with mirrors', 'hercule Poirot's Christmas', 'the mysterious affair at styles', 'murder on the mews' and so forth. Happy reading.

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bhawdeadlydan t1_j1t54zs wrote

I read agatha christie and poirot way back. But it was too convoluted for me to keep track of.

Not suprisingly, never attempted another one.

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Hartastic t1_j1tobda wrote

> However, this typecasting sometimes relied on what contemporary readers know to be harmful stereotypes. She frequently caricatured particular occupations and ethnic groups for comic effect, reinforcing the prejudices of her time.

I feel like, especially given that she was writing a century ago, Christie is relatively ahead of her time on this front.

For example, it's not uncommon that there will be a non-protagonist character who is like "Well of course the Italian did it, they love stabbing people!" or whatever stereotype of the time but that person is pretty much always wrong. It's pretty much never servants or random underclass people committing the murders either.

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junjunjun2969 t1_j1u5vnq wrote

I find her books quite slow and difficult to follow.

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theghostremains t1_j1uy6os wrote

I'm having difficulty with all the "Vera said surprisingly: 'I'm surprised!" "John said in a hushed voice: 'Please be quiet y'all". It is like she wasn't sure if it was going to be a stage play or a novel. Though I'm aware it is both, it is making "And then there were none" somewhat difficult to enjoy.

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