Submitted by JoltinJoeDimaggio t3_11x7b07 in books

I was blown away by this book. I knew I wanted more lore but I never knew how just how good this would be. The stories were darker than I expected for Tolkien’s work and at times reminded me of the style of the Icelandic Saga’s where there are separate but interwoven stories and legacies.

So I wanted to share some of my favorite and most metal passages in hopes that maybe it will inspire some of you to read it or maybe give it another shot if it’s on your Did Not Finish list.

“Then the Unlight of Ungoliant rose up even to the roots of the Trees, and Melkor sprang upon the mound; and with his black spear he smote each Tree to its core, wounded them deep, and their sap poured forth, as it were their blood, and was spilled upon the ground. But Ungoliant sucked it up, and going then from Tree to Tree she set her black beak to their wounds, till they were drained; and the poison of Death that was in her went into their tissues and withered them, root, branch, and leaf, and they died. And still she thirsted, and going to the Wells of Varda she drank them dry, but Ungoliant belched forth black vapours as she drank, and swelled to a shape so vadt and hideous that Melkor was afraid”

“Again after a hundred years Glaurung, the first of the Urulóki, the fire-drakes of the North, issued from Angband’s gates by night. He was yet young and scarce half-grown, for long and slow is the life of the dragons, but the Elves fled before him to Ered Wethrin and Dorthonion in dismay; and he defiled the fields of Ard-galen.”

“Then Morgoth hurled aloft Grond, the Hammer of the Underworld, and swung it down like a bolt of thunder. But Fingolfin sprang aside, and Grond rent a mighty pit in the earth, whence smoke and fire darted. Many times Morgot essayed to smite him, and each time Fingolfin leaped away, as a lightning shoots from under a dark cloud; and he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds, and seven times Morgoth gave a cry of anguish, whereat the hosts of Angband fell upon their faces in dismay, and the cries echoed in the Northlands. But at the last the King grew weary, and Morgoth bore down his shield upon him. Thrice he was crushed to his knees, and thrice arose again and bore up his broken shield and stricken helm. But the earth was all rent and pitted about him, and he stumbled and fell backward before the feet of Morgoth; and Morgoth set his left foot upon his neck, and the weight of it was like a fallen hill. Yet with his last and desperate stroke Fingolfin hewed the foot with Ringil and the blood gushed forth black and smoking and filled the pits of Grond. Thus died Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor.”

“…Sauron made it into a watchtower for Morgoth, a stronghold of evil, and a menace; and the fair isle of Tol Sirion became accursed, and it was called Tol-in-Gaurhoth, the Isle of Werewolves.”

“Now Sauron knew well, as did all in that land, the fate that was decreed for the hound of Valinor, and it came into his thought that he himself would accomplish it. Therefore he took upon himself the form of a werewolf, and made himself the mightiest that had yet walked the world: and he came forth to win the passage of the bridge.”

“…the fires of the Mountain were wakened again. Wherefore seeing the smoke of Orodruin from afar, and perceiving that Sauron had returned, the Númenóreans named that mountain anew Amon Amarth, which is Mount Doom.”

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Scooter0Dude t1_jd1tt8r wrote

The passages about Ungoliant are so fascinating. Good share!

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GoldenToilet99 t1_jd1ynsa wrote

If you want more, you should check out the Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth

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SilverChances t1_jd20upb wrote

You're right, Tolkien was certainly thinking of works like the Völsunga, along with various other sources!

But look at the names: Ungoliant, Amon Amarth, Fingolfin, Tol-in-Gaurhoth! His abilities as a linguist and student of comparative folklore really shine in his names. Each of them encompasses an essence, a history, a character.

If you're interested in this sort of thing (modern attempts at fictional cosmogonies and creation myths) Dunsany's Gods of Pegana is another seminal work. What it lacks in Tolkien's meticulousness and painstaking, life-long development, it makes up for in sheer power of imagination and entertainment.

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AtraMikaDelia t1_jd21wky wrote

I think one of my favorite parts is Finrod's rap battle with Sauron.

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bluesoaplime t1_jd24k5l wrote

I'm reading the Silmarillion rn and I think it's great it too! It's so epic and really fleshes out everything.

I stopped reading Two Towers half way through and never finished the trilogy, but decided to give Silmarillion a go anyway and I love it way more - it's really captured my imagination.

I feel like the writing also isn't as difficult as people say. It isn't necessarily easy but I was expecting waaay worse given the reviews on it's style.

Makes me want to try to read the trilogy again when I finish.

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quiet_desperado t1_jd288et wrote

My personal favorite:

“Then Fingolfin beheld (as it seemed to him) the utter ruin of the Noldor, and the defeat beyond redress of all their houses; and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking Oromë himself was come; for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar. Thus he came alone to Angband’s gates, and he sounded his horn, and smote once more upon the brazen doors, and challenged Morgoth to come forth to single combat. And Morgoth came.”

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PreciousHamburgler t1_jd2y7tf wrote

My favorite story is regarding the master of doom, Turin turambar. Its so dark.

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JoltinJoeDimaggio OP t1_jd30gkx wrote

I can easily see how some people might prefer the Silmarillion to the LOTR. Once you read the Sil you realize that LOTR only covers a fraction of time and that so many stories come before it. The Sil is also a lot grittier and darker, if you haven’t gotten to Turin’s story yet then buckle up

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forman98 t1_jd31qtw wrote

I first read the Hobbit and LoTR when the LoTR movies came out back in the day. I enjoyed it quite a bit but it was tough. I decided to reread them a couple years ago and got completely hooked. What helped, though, was often pausing my reads to watch some youtube videos about some part of the book I was in. Most youtube videos on Middle Earth are pulling from the Silmarillion and his other works. This gave everything a much greater depth, knowing a rough history of each part of the book. It no longer seemed like some adventure story, it seemed like an active tale taking place in a world extremely steeped in history. With timelines of hundreds of thousands of years you get a real sense of scale of LoTR. I've since read the Silmarillion.

My favorite aspect of it all was if you look at LoTR as "modern day" when most regular people no longer believe in magic or even know if the old tales they grew up with are actually true. These Hobbits are quite like that, but are then thrust into this story where this one ring that was lost like 3000 years ago is actually real and the being that created it is alive and wants it back. The LoTR is sort of the final epic tale of Middle Earth. The characters often allude to the other epic tales like Beren and Luthien, Fingolfin vs Morgoth, etc, but don't realize they are in one of these tales until about halfway through the journey.

You should definitely go back and read the series once you've finished the Silmarillion.

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Story-Artist t1_jd34shw wrote

I read the Silmarillion when I was a kid and started rereading it now that I'm older, I definitely understand a lot more, hah. Ungoliant is too cool, she's definitely my favorite villian in the Silmarillion still. I mean, she went toe-to-toe with the lord of evil and and would have won if he wasn't cheating with those balrogs, lol.

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TheOnlyMrMatt t1_jd3d275 wrote

"The Nazgul were they, the Ringwraiths, the Enemy’s more terrible servants, darkness went with them, and they cried with the voices of death."

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masterofunfucking t1_jd3qod8 wrote

Favorite book of all time. It’s literally banger story after banger story save for the two pages where he’s just throwing names at you

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PicardTangoAlpha t1_jd3wi6y wrote

If you made it through this, good job. It gets better with repeated readings.

In-Universe, I think this work is Bilbo's Tales From the Elvish (see Return of the King), as narrated by Elrond to Bilbo during his long sojourn as Elrond's guest. Possibly added to from Rivendell's archives. Can you imagine Bilbo's delight and satisfaction of having access to such a library?

Once you're comfortable with it, and assuming you read through LOTR Appendices, Unfinished Tales is very accessible and fun, and a big addition to the whole work.

Then you face a major decision: the twelve books of Unfinished Tales. This is a mighty undertaking, and at first confusing. Again, it might be regarded in-Universe as the scattered and collected legends of the deep past, from many sources, some outright contradicting each other.

Tolkien's absolute genius takes on a whole new level with this kind of approach. There is even more world building, including really detailed discussions of language, Tolkien's most awe-inspiring ability.

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plasmadrive t1_jd4cunn wrote

I found the part played by Huan the hound, in the tale of Beren and Luthien particularly moving. >!He's given the intelligence to understand speech, and the ability to speak exactly three times. He dies fighting the werewolf Carcharoth and with his last speech, wishes Beren and Luthien farewell, dying with Berens hand on his head. He was as Good a Boy as you could get.!<

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Temku t1_jd4d1cz wrote

So I’m very late to the party and this is my first time commenting here but I just finished the Rings of Power series and have been really really interested in getting into Tolkien lore lately (for shame, I know) but I’ve found it to be a bit intimidating.

I’ve only ever read The Hobbit, but have been going through and reading wikis, excerpts, watching lore videos and anything else I can find recently which has me interested to read more. The writing itself isn’t too difficult to follow but I find myself struggling with all the NAMES. Especially the fact that person place and thing has at least 3 different names for the exact same thing! This has been a bit daunting for me and kept me away from doing a full dive.

Any thoughts on this from some more experienced readers?

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daiLlafyn t1_jd4gony wrote

Thanks for engaging, thought you were trolling.

You're in a Tolkien fan group. Of course people are going to disagree with you. I did find the Sil difficult, but didn't find it tedious - I found it heartbreaking, but (spoiler alert!) that's the fate of Arda marred.

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CthulhuLovesMemes t1_jd4val5 wrote

I read it all on twitch back when I used to stream. What a ride that was! Such a good book.

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ItsBoughtnotBrought t1_jd57582 wrote

Don't sweat it, if you get lost at who someone is or what/where you are you can check the family trees and maps at the back. So many F names, and I'm really bad with names. My favourite elf is from the Silmarillion and I can never remember if it's Fingolfin or Finrod.

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ItsBoughtnotBrought t1_jd57gk2 wrote

Here is one of mine: Last of all Hurin stood alone. Then he cast aside his shield, and wielded an axe two-handed; and it is sung that the axe smoked in the black blood of the troll-guard of Gothmog until it withered, and each time that he slew Hurin cried: 'Aure entuluva! Day shall come again!' Seventy times he uttered that cry; but they took him at last alive...

It helps me through tough times.

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stereobreadsticks t1_jd5q8q2 wrote

I've had people people ask me for recommendations of what to read if they like Tolkien, expecting me to name contemporary fantasy authors. And that's fine, obviously more or less all modern fantasy has been inspired by Tolkien, in many cases directly ripping it off, and there's plenty to enjoy in that style of fiction. That said, The Silmarillion in particular always leads me to recommend religious and mythological texts, ancient epics and sagas, and that sort of thing over pretty much any post-Tolkien fantasy authors.

Interested in Tolkien? Read Beowulf, the Morte d'Arthur, the Books of Genesis and Exodus, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, the Icelandic Sagas, the Kalevala, the Iliad and Odyssey, the Theogony, the Tain Bo Cuailnge, the Mabinogion. Tolkien wanted to create a mythology for England, so if you want to understand his motivations and influences that's where you should turn.

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Dana07620 t1_jd61l7h wrote

Of the 5 main books, it's my favorite. It didn't used to be. But the more I read it, the more I appreciate it.

Though, the more frustrated I am with the glossing over of the War of Wrath. A 40 year war so destructive that it sunk a good portion of a continent. Why is it that the three houses of the Edain fought with the newly arrived Elves, but the remaining Noldor of ME did not? Were there any Valar in the fighting? Surely the Elves couldn't have destroyed Beleriand. That's Valar level power.

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supreme-dominar t1_jd6aqo9 wrote

By far my favorite passage is when Luthien goes to the halls of Mandos and pleads for Beren.

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daiLlafyn t1_jd72qyq wrote

Fair play. But a word to the wise. If you're in a place of worship, don't start telling everyone that their Holy Book is unreadable garbage - even if to you it is. You'll find you'll get some backlash. :o)

Edit: wrong sub! 😂

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SevenBushes t1_jd7unt2 wrote

I read about the gap in time between events and thought “wow that’s really long” but never framed it the way you just said regarding the “modern day” and let me say thank you for drawing that comparison. From our perspective it’d be as if some ancient Egyptian or Roman king turned out to be living underground and all of a sudden wanted his artifacts back - really changes my perception of the outlook the characters would have had during their adventures!

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