Only_game_in_town t1_jcbsjo9 wrote on March 15, 2023 at 6:32 PM

$44,000/year and they stretch that $10k bonus out over two years

Dyzerio t1_jcbt2sh wrote on March 15, 2023 at 6:35 PM

At least their including existing drivers

sxswnxnw t1_jcc2tvz wrote on March 15, 2023 at 7:35 PM

Yeah but when you consider many people get zero bonuses? It's not that bad.

My first bonus as a nurse was 5k pre-tax with a 1 year service agreement. And a threat to be on the hook for the full 5 if I didn't keep up my side of the bargain. Yes, the work conditions were bad. My salary as a FT RN in a southern state working night shift was like 33k.

Another year my bonus was a 25 dollar gift card. Another year it was a turkey at Thanksgiving. 9 years ago, I got a bonus of $250. You get the idea. 🙃

Only_game_in_town t1_jcccuai wrote on March 15, 2023 at 8:36 PM

What so as long as somebody else has it worse it can't be a shit deal? 44k/year is a shit wage in baltimore area, can barely afford to live in the city you drive in

I've had good, bad, and no bonus jobs before, I can still point out that the "bonus" they put in bold is strung out as quarterly payments.

As someone else pointed out the bonus also gets paid to existing employees, that's excellent, that's the only upside to this ad I see.

sxswnxnw t1_jccorz4 wrote on March 15, 2023 at 9:51 PM

Most people that post on Reddit are high earners. For various reasons and circumstances. As someone who has not always been a high earner, I am pointing out that what is a good deal, specifically in capitalism and in federalism? Is highly relative. I know plenty of people that work for nonprofits for pennies because they enjoy the work: some aren't the only earners in their households and many (MANY) have inherited money to fall back on or parents who help them and they are happy to work for those pennies. And then there are also people who are the only earners in their households and the rent is perpetually too damn high.

Circumstances vary.

Only_game_in_town t1_jccwsdz wrote on March 15, 2023 at 10:45 PM

It's subjective, it looks different for all sorts of reasons, most not relevant.

What is relevant however is the fact that this wage in this area with our cost of living, with a bonus that isn't cash in hand but is strung out for two years, is pretty dogshit.

Not sure how your wage in the south was relevant at all, not sure why you wrote about rich people working non profits unless they're gonna be charitable by driving a bus.

Circumstances vary, but in in general promoting underpaid work just because it might look good to someone, somewhere, whos somehow worse off already, is how you end up suppressing wages all around. A below average wage should be called what it is.

sxswnxnw t1_jcd7xc4 wrote on March 16, 2023 at 12:04 AM

What do you consider to be a livable and average wage?

What are the relevant, subjective reasons an offered salary may not meet that metric?

Are all positions bonus earning? And what is a fair bonus, in addition to (all?) cash in hand (because I believe bonuses are taxed at around 20 percent)?

Personal anecdote : I recall on this subreddit someone saying they want to move to Baltimore, and they wanted to know how much they should make to live comfortably in Baltimore. My response then (maybe 2019 or 2020) was I struggled here Baltimore region in the low $70,000s in one apartment with a mouse problem: that number is roughly what I made when I first moved here. All I know is the consensus on this subreddit was that was an entirely inflated number and multiple folks told their own anecdotes of wonderful, pest free apartments in popular neighborhoods making much less than that. For me, personally, I would struggle at that pay now: I have student debt still, and at that time (when I was making low $70,000s) I had a dog and credit card debt and was not living exciting neighborhoods with lots of amenities out on the edge of the city and Baltimore County.

Those are more current, possibly more relevant-to-you anecdotes, in addition to the recent salary thread (last week or thereabout) which you are free to search for. So again, I am curious to hear what your wage metric is.

Only_game_in_town t1_jcdnb90 wrote on March 16, 2023 at 1:55 AM

Did i sign up to be cross examined when i posted the wage? I'd agree with you on the 70k range for moving here comfortably.