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huh_phd t1_jasb1c4 wrote

Schizophrenia is roughly 90% heritable. Alcohol doesn't come with a warning that it'll ruin your life, so why should weed have a scary disclaimer?

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NewEngland313 t1_jasbf00 wrote

According to current scientific understanding, there is no definitive percentage for how much schizophrenia is inherited. However, it is generally accepted that genetic factors play a significant role in the development of schizophrenia. Studies have shown that individuals with a family history of schizophrenia have a higher risk of developing the disorder, and certain genetic variants have been associated with an increased risk. However, it is also known that environmental factors can contribute to the development of schizophrenia, and the interplay between genetic and environmental factors is complex and not yet fully understood. But we should warn of potential risks such as schizophrenia.

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huh_phd t1_jasbj4x wrote

NIH says differently. Where did you get your references? YouTube, Facebook and other echo chambers don't count. Peer reviewed only.

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NewEngland313 t1_jasc9mc wrote

National Institute of Mental Health, the heritability of schizophrenia is estimated to be around 80%, meaning that 80% of the risk for developing schizophrenia is due to genetic factors. This information is also supported by a meta-analysis of family studies, which found that the lifetime risk of schizophrenia is approximately 6.5% among first-degree relatives of people with the illness, compared to a population prevalence of around 1%.

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huh_phd t1_jascfzp wrote

And whats the between diagnosed schizophrenia and "oh fuck I'm too high"?

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NewEngland313 t1_jasd8ej wrote

While marijuana and psychosis can cause similar symptoms such as paranoia, confusion, and altered perceptions, there are important differences between the two.

Marijuana use typically leads to mild to moderate cognitive changes and euphoria, while psychosis involves more intense and persistent mental disturbances, including delusions and hallucinations.

Marijuana use is often temporary, lasting only a few hours, while psychosis is a serious and long-term condition that requires medical attention.

It's important to note that marijuana use can potentially trigger or worsen underlying psychotic disorders in people who are already at risk. If you are experiencing any concerning symptoms or have questions about your mental health, it's best to talk to a medical professional.

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huh_phd t1_jasegyj wrote

Why are you just copying and pasting these walls of text? If you're at risk, just don't smoke it?

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NewEngland313 t1_jaseyz1 wrote

I’m trying to help people.

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huh_phd t1_jashl2l wrote

And thats reasonable, but is it really warranted? Especially since alcohol comes with no warnings aside from "drink responsibly"

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NewEngland313 t1_jasi8lw wrote

One reason why alcohol companies may not warn of all the risks involved is that they may not be required to do so by law or regulations. We can get this right with cannabis companies!

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huh_phd t1_jasihrq wrote

If you're at risk, just don't consume it? There's a lot of data around HES but there isn't a warning for that

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NewEngland313 t1_jasj23r wrote

Can you be more specific?

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huh_phd t1_jasj6k9 wrote

Hyper emetic syndrome

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NewEngland313 t1_jasjmez wrote

CHS? Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome?

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huh_phd t1_jasjtq5 wrote

Yes. Look dude, if your brain doesn't work like it should, you shouldn't consume psychoactive drugs. Akin to how you shouldn't consume alcohol if your liver doesn't function properly.

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Blubomberikam t1_jasbrk4 wrote

The proposed question here assumes the premise is true. There is no definitive evidence and at best some correlation, unless you have a peer reviewed source stating otherwise.

Also incredibly biased wording for the question being asked with no explanation for a "no" response clearly trying to lead people to vote yes.

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NewEngland313 t1_jascw0o wrote

Leading people to vote yes for safety can be seen as a strategy to promote policies or actions that prioritize the well-being and protection of individuals and society as a whole. Ultimately, the goal is to create a safer environment for everyone, which can improve quality of life and reduce the incidence of harm and risk in the community.

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Blubomberikam t1_jasdkbt wrote

Its not a poll if you're just leading people to an answer without all the info.

Do you have peer reviewed sources for any of the claims you have made?

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NewEngland313 t1_jasetts wrote

There is a significant body of peer-reviewed evidence that suggests a link between cannabis use and an increased risk of schizophrenia. Studies have consistently found that people who use cannabis are more likely to develop schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders than those who do not use the drug.

Some examples of peer-reviewed research on this topic include:

  • A 2019 meta-analysis of 83 longitudinal studies that found a clear association between cannabis use and the onset of psychotic symptoms, including schizophrenia. The study concluded that cannabis use increases the risk of psychotic disorders by about three-fold.
  • A 2020 study published in The Lancet Psychiatry that used a large dataset to investigate the relationship between cannabis use and schizophrenia. The study found that heavy cannabis users were more likely to develop schizophrenia than occasional users or non-users, and that the risk increased with the amount of cannabis used.
  • A 2018 study published in JAMA Psychiatry that used brain imaging to examine the effects of cannabis use on brain structure and function in people at high risk of developing schizophrenia. The study found that cannabis use was associated with changes in brain regions that are known to be involved in the development of psychotic disorders.
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Blubomberikam t1_jasfaf7 wrote

That seems an awful lot like a list from a group you're copying from. Do you have links to the actual studies or just a list of someone's interpretations?

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NewEngland313 t1_jasfm2e wrote

Do you want links to the actual source now?

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Blubomberikam t1_jasg168 wrote

Always want a link to the actual study. A copy paste from what I'm sure is a biased advocacy group is useless.

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NewEngland313 t1_jasgdtx wrote

Just saying I provided research examples, you could always type it in yourself. But okay 👌🏼

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Blubomberikam t1_jasi5tb wrote

I'm not the one making the claim so I have no responsibility to verify it. You have the burden of proof. You have provided someone else's analysis copied from a site with no links to the source data.

In this thread you have already said there was no confirmed genetic % and then immediately linked an 80% figure (also without a source) so you have not swayed me in any way nor given me any reason to trust what your saying.

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NewEngland313 t1_jasihko wrote

I’m sorry that you feel that way, just trying to help the community in making healthy choices.

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Blubomberikam t1_jasjfp6 wrote

Nothing I've said disagrees with that, I just care that I'm not trying to make things happen based on bad information.

You do understand why a stranger linking unsourced information on the internet is not reliable, right?

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