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Nacho_Sunbeam t1_ixzbhi9 wrote

Reply to comment by CodeMonkey789 in 1st day of rifle season --- good luck to all you hunters! by Bocephus8892

Controlled hunting actually saves so many animals. Better to have ten die and provide food for humans than the entire herd starve for naught.

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CodeMonkey789 t1_ixzch0c wrote

There are many non violent ways of population control that do not involving going into the woods with guns. Please read up on them before typing :)

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Nacho_Sunbeam t1_ixzcmkl wrote

Do they feed families, too? Why don't you elaborate, expert?

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CodeMonkey789 t1_ixzdoiv wrote

You don’t need animal products to survive. A whole food plant based diet provides all the nutrients needed for healthful survival. It also happens to be the cheapest diet per nutritional dollar, so feeding a family on lentils, veggies, and grains is pretty easy.

nutritionfacts.org/daily-dozen

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Nacho_Sunbeam t1_ixze1ap wrote

That didn't answer the question as to how else you can help the herd and help the population of the deer.

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CodeMonkey789 t1_ixzedjk wrote

You didn’t ask that. The answer is no, unless you use the money on guns/ammo/gear and buy cheap lentils/rice.

They also don’t involve taking the life of a defenseless creature. I linked the list in another comment:

https://portal.ct.gov/CAES/Plant-Science-Day/2002/Non-lethal-Methods-of-Controlling-Deer-Population-Growth

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Nacho_Sunbeam t1_ixzf8we wrote

Oh okay I think I might be having two different conversations with you lol. I thought it was you who said that there was ways to help control the deer population that didn't involve going into the woods with a gun? That was what I was asking about but you're right it's not on this little thread feel free to go ahead and answer it though that's cool. And just to be super clear I don't actually hunt I don't actually really like hunting however I do like animals and I live in a wilderness area and it just is necessary so that we don't have starving deer getting hit by a car all the time and the entire herd getting wiped out.

Trophy hunters can go fuck themselves for sure those guys are psychotic serial killers basically who have just found a " " socially acceptable way to do it but hunting for food hunting to help conserve the deer population nah that's fine.

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CodeMonkey789 t1_ixzfzga wrote

I gave a link.

Humans are a very invasive and violent species when it comes to wildlife. It is sad I agree. What is the difference morally between shooting a deer and hitting one with your car? Both take a life. Both can be avoided

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Nacho_Sunbeam t1_ixzgmke wrote

Okay I see the link now I will check it out. Well so okay do you not live where there are deer maybe? Because hitting one with your car cannot always be avoided unless you just never ever ever drive a car? Like they come into the city because you know people don't want to hunt them so there's too many of them and there's not enough food in the country so now they come into the city and they go on to the road and traffic yeah it traffic hits them. So again do you maybe not live where there are wildlife?

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CodeMonkey789 t1_ixzho94 wrote

Personal cars are extremely dangerous for not only humans, but animals too. In hindsight, mass producing the automobile was one of mankind’s worst decisions. We could have had a mass transit system + underground transportation without ever creating the time sink that is traffic. Kinda a separate point but it’s worth mentioning because well built transit would probably save some animals too.

And I’m sorry I’m having trouble understanding the rest of your point.

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Nacho_Sunbeam t1_ixzhx17 wrote

I guess oh okay so I see you're thinking like crazy ideal Utopian society where we all just give up our cars and make these underground mass transit systems. The disconnect here is I'm talking about reality where we live now and how we could change things now with the reality we actually already live in. But we clearly are in two different realities so I'll go ahead and leave you to yours I appreciate all your thought-provoking conversation enjoy your reality today.

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Nacho_Sunbeam t1_ixzh3sr wrote

So while we're here where's your line exactly? Do you use pesticides or like consider the insects that die in order for your plants to be harvested? Do those bugs lives not matter? And I mean the plants are living so that's a life so how do you justify taking that life but not a deer life? How exactly did you come to the conclusion of which lives are okay for you to take versus your opinions on which lives other people are allowed to take? Have you ever taken antibiotics before? Have you ever had a tapeworm and treated it? Head lice maybe? I actually don't believe that every single life all life is sacred so maybe that's our our core issue here.

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