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LilDutchy t1_javesb6 wrote

I went and watched the video and was amazed at this woman. She flips from screaming racist crap to pulling her phone out and crying victim. I just wish they had kept recording so we could see what line of bull she lays on the cop that comes in.

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NotNowDamo t1_javkklu wrote

When she says, "Oh, I know you," to the cop, I knew she was a piece of shit.

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IamSauerKraut t1_javoxfv wrote

I love that he walked in while she was in full rant - which came to a stop in a loud screech. Rita Bellew. We shall hear from that misfit again.

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WoodsAreHome t1_jawaef1 wrote

For me, it was the part where she said all the racist stuff.

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_jawhvj2 wrote

And then the lying. The outright lying when she was being recorded the entire time. These people really do believe they create their own reality.

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lanfear2020 t1_javms0y wrote

Its so calculated and smug.

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LilDutchy t1_jaw13b5 wrote

Know what really gets at those minorities? Start crying about being white on video. What a piece of trash.

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Skybluesky92 t1_jawnct2 wrote

Alcohol.... Doesn't excuse it. But. Alcohol.

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LilDutchy t1_jaxw4ey wrote

I dunno. I get drunk and have never started ranting racist crap.

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Skybluesky92 t1_jaxx354 wrote

Did I say it was ok?

No.

I only implied that I thought she sounded like she was drunk. I wasn't excusing her behavior or racist rant.

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Lyndell t1_jawcr76 wrote

Drunk as shit.

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LilDutchy t1_jaxw150 wrote

So I listened again. I didn’t think she was drunk the first time. On the second listen, right at the beginning, she’s definitely drunk. Doesn’t make her any less of a piece of trash, but a drunk one.

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TheTeenageOldman t1_jausgwv wrote

Am fascinated by people who seemingly can't go about a simple task, like picking up a pizza, without starting some sort of racial incident.

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invisiblearchives t1_javwi2r wrote

Yep. When I hear a middle aged white guy saying "everything is so woke now you can hardly leave the house without being called a racist or a misogynist"

No, Todd, you can't leave the house with sexually harassing or racially antagonizing people. Everyone else is just fine.

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MartianActual t1_jaw8sys wrote

Wizened GenXer here and let me tell you my generation sucks and is an embarrassment. But to the point of your first sentence here's an anecdotal story about that.
I'm ex-military, was a paratrooper and then was attached to JSOC, spent time running with 7th SFG way back when. To be clear, I wasn't SF, I just happened to do early generation field sat phones (yes, as fucking heavy as you are imagining) and they were like, ooh, we can do comm links from anywhere in the world. We're taking your guys until we get our own. Also, for the purposes of this story, I was in a fraternity in college.

Anyway, fast forward to me in circa 2015, 4 kids now, coach in lacrosse, soccer, community activist. Daughter is playing travel lacrosse. There's this one family, kind of anti-social keep to themselves type, well, the parents are, kids were nice. Anyway, they are pre-MAGA Tea Party nut jobs. And the dad latches on to me cause word spread of my military service and he was also in a fraternity. On paper I am a right wingers wet dream. Except I am a pretty easy going left leaning type, big Teddy Roosevelt fan, very anti-religion, a weird blend of Edmund Burke and Thomas Paine. Like I am a big fan of capitalism, with regulations, big fan of freedom, with responsibility, big fan of discrimination, but on people's character, not demographics, big fan of what we do for the least amongst us is more important than what we do for the most entitled and so on.

We're at a tournament one day and with travel teams you have multiple teams designated by age, so my daughter was I think 5th/6th grade at the time. And the start of these things can be clusterfucks. Like 15 fields, 40 or so teams, poor signage, especially if you're new to the whole thing. I see this family with their daughter and she's in our program but probably a 3rd grader. So the MAGAs have camped next to us and I don't care, I'll talk to anybody and we know enough to navigate the conversation towards kid's sports and a few other safe topics.

I see this other lost family so I walk over to see if I can help them and then we chat for a bit, they were at the completely wrong end of the tournament. I walk back and the dude says to me, 'You're so politically correct...' and I was like, 'What?' and then it dawned on me, the lost family was black. I just gave him a 'you're a dick look' and we picked our shit up and went over and hung out with the rest of the team families and had a grand ole time.

He was always complaining to me about how this country was heading in the wrong direction (remember this is like 2013-2014 and I remember asking how and he would say stuff like 'free speech man, you can't say anything in this country anymore without getting in trouble' and stuff like that. I realized what these fucks are angry about is that they can't make fun or belittle minorities, or gay people, or women, without suffering consequences for it and it really pisses them off.

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invisiblearchives t1_jawf0ur wrote

>I realized what these fucks are angry about is that they can't make fun or belittle minorities, or gay people, or women, without suffering consequences for it and it really pisses them off.

I would say, even more specifically than this, is that the American social arrangement literally contained the idea that even if you were the most downtrodden dirt farmer white, you were still de facto better than the queers, jews, blacks, mexicans, etc.

Taking that away has made the poorer end of the confederate spectrum extremely angry. They literally feel like their birthright was taken from them... the birthright being of course the right to "make fun or belittle minorities, or gay people, or women, without suffering consequences"

Plus, when compared to an even wider swath of american citizens (containing a wide mix of brilliant and lovely people of many races and backgrounds) these guys look more and more what they are... a relic of america's disgusting racial history that is in rapid decline of social power

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wagsman t1_jawhduf wrote

Lyndon Johnson was spot on when he said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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MartianActual t1_jawha4m wrote

&gt;I would say, even more specifically than this, is that the American social arrangement literally contained the idea that even if you were the most downtrodden dirt farmer white, you were still de facto better than the queers, jews, blacks, mexicans, etc.<

I think that has been pretty apparent since Obama was elected. I think the wealthier end of the neo-confederate spectrum came to the happy conclusion that they could make a lot of cash off of fueling that poorer end anger, by direct donations and by running on a platform as such and legislating shit like tax cuts for the wealthy and deregulating business to lower cost regardless of the danger in doing so.

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_jawlg9q wrote

Lyndon B. Johnson said it best. This is from when he was POTUS.

>We were in Tennessee. During the motorcade, he spotted some ugly racial epithets scrawled on signs. Late that night in the hotel, when the local dignitaries had finished the last bottles of bourbon and branch water and departed, he started talking about those signs. "I'll tell you what's at the bottom of it," he said. "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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Jasontheperson t1_jaxa74c wrote

OK?

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serpicowasright t1_jaxy6fo wrote

Lyndon J was a piece of shit, do not emulate or look up to the man.

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Jasontheperson t1_jb1cu20 wrote

It's like you want us to ignore his anti racist messages. Why is that?

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serpicowasright t1_jb1f8ll wrote

Because they weren’t actually anti-racist messages. He wanted to consolidate power of an African American voter group. So he could do things that he really wanted like continue killing innocent brown people in Vietnam.

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zwirjosemito t1_jawnlyz wrote

This quote from Mississippi Burning lives rent free in my head:

“Ward : Where does it come from? All this hatred?

Anderson : You know, when I was a little boy, there was an old negro farmer that lived down the road from us, name of Monroe. And he was... well, I guess he was just a little luckier than my daddy was. He bought himself a mule. That was a big deal around that town. My daddy hated that mule, 'cause his friends were always kidding him that they saw Monroe out plowing with his new mule, and Monroe was going to rent another field now he had a mule. One morning, that mule showed up dead. They poisoned the water. After that, there wasn't any mention about that mule around my daddy. It just never came up. One time, we were driving down that road, and we passed Monroe's place and we saw it was empty. He just packed up and left, I guess, he must of went up north or something. I looked over at my daddy's face. I knew he done it. He saw that I knew. He was ashamed. I guess he was ashamed. He looked at me and said, If you ain't better than a n*gger, son, who are you better than?

Ward : You think that's an excuse?

Anderson : No it's not an excuse. It's just a story about my daddy.

Ward : Where's that leave you?

Anderson : My old man was just so full of hate that he didn't know that bein' poor was what was killing him.”

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CoolHandMike t1_jawmdz9 wrote

It's really fun (but not really) watching these types of people do a complete 180 when you mention having served in the military. Side note, I hate the whole "thank you for your service" thing that has been programmed into our population. Yeah, I served, but I was an electronics tech fixing radios in the repair shop. Teachers and nurses are much more deserving of this kind of respect imho.

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MartianActual t1_jaxnw1b wrote

First off, don't diminish your service, you put yourself out there when most others will not, whether that was to HALO jump into an al Queda compound or repairing vital equipment, it was all important.

Secondly, I hear you on that. I hate when people thank me for my service. Most times it the equivalent of saying 'god bless you' when someone sneezes, like they feel they have to, its a platitude now. I get a lot of people are just trying to be nice but it does make most veterans feel uncomfortable. And yeah, there are a ton of people in our society doing vital things that don't get the recognition they deserve. My wife worked as an ER nurse, while pregnant with twins, while getting her masters at night. That is hardcore.

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CoolHandMike t1_jazcvxi wrote

That IS hardcore. Your wife is a force of nature, for sure.

I mostly used to get annoyed at the hardware store, since it seems to be a part of their training to specifically thank you for your service when you ask for the discount at check-out (Lowe's and HD). Feeling inspired one day, I turned it around and thanked them for the discount and that's become my mantra. "Thank you for your service." "Hey, thanks for the discount!" Some cashiers seem pleasantly surprised by the "return compliment", so that's nice. (Side-note: recently bought a house and during the first few years it wasn't uncommon for me to visit multiple stores per week, if not per day. "The Thankening" got old quick.)

That said, the self-checkout at Lowe's used to loudly "THANK YOU FOR YOUR MILITARY SERVICE" when you scanned your membership card, which was just super-cringe to me. Like, why is a machine programmed to suddenly (and loudly, for all to hear) call me out like this. I did not ask for, nor do I need this kind of self-aggrandization. However I've noticed in the past couple of times I've visited that it doesn't seem to do that anymore, just displaying it on the screen in text instead. But it could just be my local store's settings or something, I'm not sure. I hope it continues.

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MartianActual t1_jb09fnq wrote

That’s another thing that annoys me, how America fetishes the military. Military grade this or that, like if you knew how often military gear breaks down that would not be a selling point,. Or all the dudes with the high and tight with beards and wrap around shades wearing a ‘this I’ll defend’ GoRuck tee with the American flag on the sleeve, the irony being they never served. Or all the SealTeam Six type tv shows.

I think serving is great, I am also pointedly aware that that doesn’t make you a great human being. I served with some awesome people that had a huge impact on me, also served with some low lifes I wouldn’t acknowledge knowing. The military is just a crosscut of America, good, bad and ugly.

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thatoneguydudejim t1_jaxb3lx wrote

They’re being babies about being told what to do. They are children with no humility and will kick and scream us all into an early grave.

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topspin9 t1_jax6eoy wrote

Hear Hear ! Excellent observation and analysis! Reddit free Award 🗯💥💫^

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MartianActual t1_jay7ciw wrote

I think what helped me was traveling outside America after college and not the get high in youth hostels in Europe travel but some hardcore hiking in the Sahel in Mali, in Amazonian Peru, hopping around the Leeward Islands. Meeting people in abject poverty and they being friendly and kind for the most part made a huge impression on me.

Kind of made me see how you should judge people on their character and not skin color or who they love. Character matters, in fact, to me it is all that matters, we’ve seemed to have lost an appreciation for that value.

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_jawjd9f wrote

I could not have said it better myself. It's interesting because I am a 42 year old straight white guy and nobody ever accuses me of being bigoted in any way. It's because I'm not a fucking bigot.

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_jawj5ql wrote

The racists in this country have been emboldened since 2015 to be outwardly racist. We had a POTUS who gave these people the courage to be outwardly racist in public when before they'd keep it to their closed circles of like minded people. This is one of the legacies of Donald J. Trump.

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Dumpster_slut69 t1_jaweawr wrote

Hopefully the racist penalties stack if she doesn't learn her lesson and does it again

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comicnerd93 t1_javllcl wrote

This article got her to comment on the situation.

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Escobarhippo t1_javtho6 wrote

> she described herself as “emotionally unstable.” She’s dealing with multiple breast cancer diagnoses, Bellew said, and she’s a caregiver to her ill father.

The caretaker role is extremely hard, I’ve been there. * But* clearly she was spewing hatred that is deeply ingrained. I’m kind of disappointed she got her refund.

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ThePopeJones t1_javyacv wrote

I take care of my elderly gram and I know sometimes I get frustrated and short with folks. The thing is, even when I'm at my worst I never start saying racist shit.

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ggoptimus t1_jawfyxt wrote

I didn’t know cancer made you racist. I was mad at the sun when I had skin cancer but never screamed at people with accents.

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B-BoyStance t1_jawgmu7 wrote

  1. Very glad you are still here

  2. The way you phrased that is hilarious

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beebyspice t1_jaw0mq7 wrote

this lady 110% seems like the type to lie about having cancer because she got caught for this shit and is mortified

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Clarck_Kent t1_jaw8fms wrote

100 percent she will have her head shaved for her next court appearance because of the “chemo.”

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UnableAudience7332 t1_jawa7x1 wrote

Nope. Lots of people go through cancer and take care of their parents. It doesn't turn you into a racist. It makes you irritable, sure, but it doesn't make you give a shit if a private company plays a Spanish TV station on their property. She was a racist bitch long before cancer and she can fuck all the way off.

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Brunt-FCA-285 t1_jayojun wrote

At best, she had latent racist tendencies that she kept pretty well-contained until the stressors in her life made containment impossible and brought those characteristics to the surface.

I wonder why we haven’t classified racism as a personality disorder, much like sociopathy or BPD. Viewing other human beings as lesser and having no sympathy for them seems to fit the bill.

EDIT: this, of course, wouldn’t make being a bigot excusable in any way, shape, or form. But it sure would be nice if we found out that some people’s brain pathways were susceptible to forming racist thoughts thanks to some chemical imbalance, which, in turn might mean a literal cure for racism. I’m probably dreaming, but I would much rather that than continue to see it fester onward with the procreation of children who are “raised” by the shittiest of people.

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sg92i t1_jb2zr00 wrote

> I wonder why we haven’t classified racism as a personality disorder, much like sociopathy or BPD. Viewing other human beings as lesser and having no sympathy for them seems to fit the bill.

Cynical answer: Because humans naturally like to punch down. Look at the comments that come up every time raising the min wage is discussed. "Ho-hum, I don't make $15/hr so these cashiers [who the commenters think are inferior] should live in cardboard shack if they don't like it" type comments.

Its hard for something to be labeled a disorder when most of the population seems to have it.

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GhostofTinky t1_jawxnkv wrote

None of that is an excuse. Sorry. Cancer is horrible. It doesn’t make people racist.

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_jawile4 wrote

Having to care for a sick father doesn't have a side effect of causing racism. That has nothing to do with the fact that she is a racist piece of shit and her trying to use this as an excuse tells you everything you need to know about this worthless loser. All anyone has to do is watch the video to know everything they need to know about this asshole.

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AlreadyMoved2Houston t1_jax8lxk wrote

Who knows what the people on the receiving end of the rant are going through? It’s hard to work in this kind of business where you’re always face to face with people, and you can’t really miss work.

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writergeek313 t1_jax7c0x wrote

Amazingly, most of us manage to handle stress without shouting racist things. She’s looking for sympathy she in no way deserves.

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Scrungo_Mungo t1_javxm0h wrote

Fuck this bitch! I had testicular cancer and went though chemo in 2014 and was dealing with severe alcoholism/withdrawals and not once did I yell at a customer service worker or say anything racist. I hate when these blob people say “I’m not racist” and try to explain why they yelled crazy racist shit by saying they are stressed, newsflash Karen… YOU ARE RACIST!

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Sunni_tzu t1_jawvt4l wrote

Hoping that you were able to hold onto your sobriety my friend.

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Apprehensive_Bid3919 t1_jaz3jri wrote

I work in customer service and deal with people yelling at me all the time. Odd how almost all of them can do it without being racist.

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underscore5000 t1_javtcxx wrote

Oh she's horrified and feels terrible now that everyone was made aware of how much a piece of shit she is.

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pooptits2 t1_jawhdsf wrote

This is a poorly written non fact checked article. shes not a hatboro resident. She left this town over a year ago and now resides in NJ. She was here seeing family.

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AlreadyMoved2Houston t1_jax90yx wrote

Lovely. Hopefully not in a part with lots of immigrants…when I lived in NJ, everywhere I went, someone was speaking in some other language, or listening to it via music, TV, etc…it’s kind of charming unless you’re this lady.

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wagsman t1_jawklyl wrote

> Asked about her racist language toward the owner, she described herself as “emotionally unstable.” She’s dealing with multiple breast cancer diagnoses, Bellew said, and she’s a caregiver to her ill father. She described her behavior as an angry outburst as a result of “being overwhelmed with everything else in [her] life.”

Plenty of people go through cancer, and deal with caring for elderly relatives and don’t go on racist tirades. Those things don’t suddenly turn you into a racist. You are already that way, but do a good job of hiding it.

If she’s honest about showing remorse she needs to expose herself to new people and new points of view to change those deeply ingrained beliefs. But we know she will inevitably end up on some conservative talk piece where she can continue to play the victim and stoke the same old prejudices.

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sg92i t1_jb2zy6c wrote

> Plenty of people go through cancer

At this point in time the public has a worse than 50/50 shot at cancer at some point in their lifetimes.

Literally worse than a coin flip.

If cancer caused people to be bad people, there'd be a lot more bad people.

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Miggy88mm t1_jaye3ta wrote

I was unaware cancer caused racism. The more you know I guess.

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lilwolp t1_javo541 wrote

Thanks for linking! I am glad she feels horrible about it and wants to apologize.

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MartianActual t1_jaw58if wrote

Spoiler: She doesn't. She is only saying that because she was video taped and charged.

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dudettte t1_jawcr3d wrote

she would definitely feel better if everyone spoke english there duh.

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AlreadyMoved2Houston t1_jax95ss wrote

Hm. Maybe speaking English cures cancer? I will have to look into that for my family member…

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jaxs5v5 wrote

Why are they giving this dumbass a microphone and an opportunity to defend herself?

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IamSauerKraut t1_jayirp2 wrote

You do not like it when a racist doubles down on herself?

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jaz6gut wrote

A third of the people who watch her testimony will feel bad for her, and that's how you end up with 28-32% of the country being nazis.

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ulfricstormclk t1_javo2ek wrote

At least she acknowledged it was wrong

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yeags86 t1_javqkn0 wrote

With a bunch of excuses for it. She’s only sorry because she is facing consequences for her actions.

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invisiblearchives t1_javxyzq wrote

she took no responsibility for her actions, actually blamed her dying father for stressing her out, played the "poor me I'm sick" card, and then within a single breath had gone from being apologetic to playing the victim and saying she's being harassed.

That lady is a narcissist and a bully. Full stop.

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--Cr1imsoN-- t1_javxjbm wrote

She’s only admitting it was wrong because she was caught and it went viral. Otherwise, she wouldn’t have given a shit.

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choodudetoo t1_jawyc86 wrote

Even my toddler had enough sense to do that when caught crum pawed in the cookie jar.

Didn't mean I could leave the cookie jar down that low on the counter anymore.

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Unique-Public-8594 t1_jav31wr wrote

From the article:

> The woman in the video […] has since been charged with ethnic intimidation and harassment.

> "When we viewed the video, it was really over the top. It was a racially-fueled, profane rant directed at their heritage and it's not going to be tolerated," said Hatboro Chief of Police James Gardner.

Thank you for charging her with a crime.

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Er3bus13 t1_jav8wzz wrote

If it was just some low-key racism we would have let it go. /s

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baron_von_noseboop t1_jawhz8x wrote

Probably they should have, yes. Everyone has unconscious biases, and some about race in particular. That means everyone is a little bit racist. You can self monitor and try to be aware of when it is influencing your actions, but no one does that perfectly.

We can't prosecute people as criminal every time we behave like a flawed person. We would all be in jail.

To be clear, I'm speaking about your implication that every offense should be prosecuted. I'm on board with this one, it's egregious, she was leaning in to actively attack someone for their race and she was fully aware of what she was doing.

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YuleBeFineIPromise t1_jax2uo9 wrote

>Thank you for charging her with a crime.

It's kind of prosecutorial overreach. If the Karen actually fought it with a trial she might win. Luckily, she'll probably plea and be forced to do community service or something. Maybe she'll get put somewhere that she'll learn some valuable lessons.

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Responsible-Type-392 t1_javhvfx wrote

Can’t a lady enjoy her SSRI’s Xanax and white wine in peace?

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heili t1_javrcju wrote

How do you know my crazy bitch neighbor who wanted to call the cops on me because she was trespassing in my yard screaming threats about killing my dog?

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gslavik t1_jaxqpuz wrote

Wait, she works for the feds, too?! WTF!

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Whynautilus t1_jaw8nei wrote

I’ll be very happy when my town isn’t on the news anymore. But very glad this was the response.

Seeing them jam packed with people is the best.

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SkymallSkeeball t1_jawsotl wrote

Ya! We ordered sandwiches last weekend and the place was packed. They had to close for a break on Tuesday because they were overwhelmed. It’s been so good to see the support, and that the community is much more than that shitty person. The owner and the staff are great people ❤️

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_jawhqp7 wrote

How long before she tells us it's "not who she is?"

EDIT:

She said, and I quote "It wasn’t about race, Bellew insisted, and she’s “not a racist.”"

Incredible. The woman is so fucking delusional.

She’s dealing with multiple breast cancer diagnoses, Bellew said, and she’s a caregiver to her ill father.

When I was going through chemo for my cancer in 2021 my dad was diagnosed with cancer himself. We were both going through chemo for cancer and the stress of it all never made me a racist pile of shit.

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CharlySB t1_javuw8q wrote

I’m sure she thinks she is the victim.

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RuinTop1965 t1_javi60s wrote

These articles keep referring to her as a CPA. Does anyone have more information because she does not come up as a Ceritified Public Accountant on https://cpaverify.org/

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Only one active individual named Bellew in the entire country and not her

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RoyOfCon t1_javjr9e wrote

Someone else was misidentified at first, and that person was a CPA.

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helllllohaley t1_jaxuzp6 wrote

She said during her racist rant "I'm a CPA, I bet you don't even know what that means," which is why people misidentified that other woman due to her being a CPA and their vague resemblance to one another.

Along with her face, she gave a lottt of personal info/clues out during her tirade, so much so that she was identified by people in the neighborhood within a couple hours. Small town, word travels...

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ldavis300a t1_jawb3wp wrote

I looked for her as well on PA’s license verification system and didn’t find anything. As a CPA, they’re giving us a bad name by just blindly reporting that she is as well without verifying.

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rivershimmer t1_jawolev wrote

I wonder if she's been conflated with that poor innocent CPA that the general public harassed, and maybe journalists aren't doing their due diligence.

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OGboxer11385 t1_jaw3k60 wrote

Yeah let’s ruin her life get her fired and push her to self delete herself am I right…. Fucking people today

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OGboxer11385 t1_jaw8cqs wrote

Sarcasm warning. For those that can’t understand sarcasm

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baron_von_noseboop t1_jawibjk wrote

Plot twist: they totally got the sarcasm, but they really do want to dox her and make her life miserable

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OGboxer11385 t1_jawj70c wrote

The original poster looked her up. What was his intentions? Wanted to just see her employer? They wanted to cancel her they wanted others to attack

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baron_von_noseboop t1_jawjvpa wrote

Yeah, I know. I'm saying: your edit to add a "/s" isn't going to save you from the downvotes. They were from people who are pro-dox, and who correctly read the sarcasm in your original reply.

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Thisfuckingwebsite t1_jaxg09u wrote

Yeah its a good case study for how stupid the internet community actually is. Similar in summary to the Boston Bombers this idiot site mistakenly misidentified

That said, low quality internet slueths are a problem. "Cancel culture" is not.

Anyone who unironically uses the words/phrases "woke" or "cancel culture" are objectively idiots, and likely closet bigots (afraid of being "caught")

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formerNPC t1_jawk7yo wrote

So this woman has never heard anyone speaking another language? Stay home lady!

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lanfear2020 t1_javmnb5 wrote

Good..no reason to act like that.

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goplantagarden t1_jaxlsaa wrote

My advice to this lady: stop watching Fox and start thinking about what it could be like for other people who are experiencing similar difficulties. That's called empathy.

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Eagles_fan96 t1_jawq3ko wrote

Good. Her actions have consequences so I'm glad the cops decided to do the right thing. Next time I get pizza I'm going to Amy's to show my support, I live close to them.

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EvetsYenoham t1_jaxpbs2 wrote

Breast cancer and being a caretaker is still not an excuse to be a raging racist.

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arickg t1_jaxpgko wrote

> Ethnic intimidation is known as an add-on crime, which means that the crime cannot exist independently. Ethnic intimidation is filed with other crimes if it is believed that a crime was motivated by “malicious intention” based on the victim’s race, color, religion or national origin. Underlying offenses include crimes of violence like aggravated assault, or property crimes like arson, criminal mischief or criminal trespass.

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Haunting-Ad-9517 t1_jayhkki wrote

Damn it, I ordered from the wrong pizza place that day. Would have loved to witness this stupidity since im in a neighboring town!

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alboski1 t1_jb0aanh wrote

Two thoughts come to mind. 1. Just my opinion, but to me there was some substance or drink involved here. I wonder if the police looked into that. 2. I guarantee that when hate crime charges were brought up her first thought was “this is what’s wrong with Merica”.

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Hellsender316 t1_jayhi05 wrote

She's already dying a slow, painful death by cancer and chemo, that's punishment enough. It'll only be a matter of time till it reaches her pancreas, or her bones, or some other part of her body where she'll be in constant agony. Hope she makes peace with herself before that happens.

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delcodick t1_jav9q14 wrote

Oh no not that! However will she cope with her slap on the wrist?

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Hopeful_Scholar398 t1_javc3jl wrote

What crime would you charge her with?

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delcodick t1_javc9t5 wrote

More than a third degree misdemeanor

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Hopeful_Scholar398 t1_javcd9b wrote

What crime though? Not saying she isn't a piece of shit just that besides harassment I don't think she committed any crime.

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delcodick t1_javclwz wrote

I haven’t seen the full report and file so it would be inappropriate of me to specify a particular crime without full knowledge of all the elements present.

However it is reasonable to comment that on the face of it and from the limited information available weighed with the lack of contra indications that her conduct rises above the level of the offense charged

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NotNowDamo t1_javkgy2 wrote

If you don't know what you are talking about and need to use mental gymnastics, maybe just keep your mouth shut.

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delcodick t1_jawj9ie wrote

Have you suffered a recent blow to the head?

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NotNowDamo t1_jaykd3v wrote

You probably just never had anyone point out your nonsense before.

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delcodick t1_jayko4w wrote

Sure Princess that’s it 🤣

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NotNowDamo t1_jaykt3x wrote

Ok, good to know you realize that what you said made zero sense.

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delcodick t1_jayl5pc wrote

To you it is unlikely to make any sense. A degree of comprehension and critical thinking ability is necessary to understand it. Perhaps check back in a few years when you find a friend who can explain it to you. In the mean time try harder 👍

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NotNowDamo t1_jaysd9v wrote

Lol. You may want to reread what you wrote before you criticize my thinking skills.

Maybe try and explain it in little words to yourself before you type it out next time.

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delcodick t1_jaysgza wrote

You haven’t found a friend yet. Shoo silly little child shoo

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NotNowDamo t1_jb03s7a wrote

I really don't know what that is supposed to mean. I am going to leave now, as it seems you are now talking to yourself and I am no longer part of the conversation.

Hope you find this friend you are looking for.

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Flimsy-Lie-1471 t1_javcra2 wrote

If I read the law correctly the ethnic intimidation charge is second degree misdemeanor.

&#x200B;(b) Grading.--An offense under this section shall be classified as a misdemeanor of the third degree if the other offense is classified as a summary offense. Otherwise, an offense under this section shall be classified one degree higher in the classification specified in section 106 (relating to classes of offenses) than the classification of the other offense.

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delcodick t1_javdefh wrote

There is no underlying offense reported which may be poor reporting. But as it stands I see it as a 3rd degree misdemeanor.

Ethnic intimidation is an add-on crime, which means that the crime cannot exist independently

Ethnic intimidation is graded one degree higher than the primary offense.

So if the primary offense of criminal mischief is a summary offense, the accompanying ethnic intimidation charge would be a third-degree misdemeanor.

However a first-degree misdemeanor terroristic threat motivated by racial hatred will be accompanied by an ethnic intimidation charge would be graded as a third-degree felony.

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Flimsy-Lie-1471 t1_javdov3 wrote

It said harassment.

"has since been charged with ethnic intimidation and harassment."

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delcodick t1_javdwkk wrote

Guilty. Poor speed reading then not poor reporting 🤣. A summary offense on the face of it

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Thisfuckingwebsite t1_jaxgmxs wrote

I think being humiliated online, where it seems her whole life is spent, is the real punishment

Also, racism is bullshit and racists are trash people and objectively awful

But it shouldnt be illegal to be mean

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DannyRamone1234 t1_jawqcr4 wrote

She should be legally allowed to say whatever she wants.

However, the man who the comments were being directed at should be allowed to walk around the counter and knock her the fuck out.

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OGboxer11385 t1_jaw39f5 wrote

So more people that don’t understand free speech. Ethnic intimidation? So another unconstitutional law. Don’t need to make up unconstitutional laws infringing on rights to arrest people. Disorderly conduct trespassing are just two valid reasons to arrest her. Oh a third disturbing the peace, now we can argue the merits and constitutionality of some of these but they are long standing laws not some new bullshit. Sorry to tell you freedom of speech protects ‘hate speech’ protects the racist and the worse among us. It’s easy to protect speech that is wholesome and universally accepted like puppies are cute, but it’s harder to protect speech you find abhorrent and offensive. But protected it is.

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zerooze t1_jaw9c6j wrote

Not all speech is protected. If she had written ot all down and posted it online, she wouldn't have been arrested.

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YuleBeFineIPromise t1_jax3slu wrote

There is no "Hate Speech" statute in PA. It's an enhancement charge of Ethnic Intimidation. In this case, it's secondary to the charge of Harassment--which is an overreach on the prosecutor's part. All things considered she'll probably plea out and the overreach won't matter.

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Thisfuckingwebsite t1_jaxhtbx wrote

Then the courts will take care of it and your pissing and moaning is unnecessary

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OGboxer11385 t1_jawbg0z wrote

Speech is also verbal. ‘Hate speech’ is protected speech regardless of its form.

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zerooze t1_jax4f2d wrote

Threatening someone is not protected speech. She threatened to run him out of town.

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Jasontheperson t1_jaxawgh wrote

Whenever I hear people talk about freeze peach in situations like this, I know for a fact they are racist nut jobs themselves, they just have the social grace to hide it behind freeze peach bullshit.

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[deleted] t1_javm4sq wrote

Waste of journalism, waste of public resources. Lady should have been banned and denied service. Classic example of how people can’t manage a little piece of shit. Bag it up and toss it out. Don’t smear it on my screen.

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NDubbaYa t1_jaw2fb9 wrote

Nah. Now I’m a simple man. I see a racist and I want to see their lives ruined. So this coverage, that she got charged, and the pizza place doing good business is the exact kind response said words deserve. Be responsible for your words and deeds.

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[deleted] t1_jawporx wrote

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Jasontheperson t1_jaxa5zq wrote

And here come the racists crawling out of the woodwork to gaslight people. Your second sentence applies to this woman, not the person you responded to.

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[deleted] t1_jaw2nmq wrote

Cool. Good for the pizza man and his business. But she’s still not “going to jail” lol

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NDubbaYa t1_jaw4s3i wrote

If I recall it’s a misdemeanor and if she has no prior record I can’t imagine she’ll go to jail either. However, that’s not the important thing. The important thing is that, all things considered, it’s very much an open and shut case. I mean they got her on 4K here. She very likely, unless there is some kind of intervention resulting in the charges being dropped of course, to be found guilty.

Whenever she looks for a job that record will stay with her for at least a decade. The very public nature of this event, what she said, and the criminal record will insure no company will even remotely want to have anything to do with her.

This is why it’s important to be responsible for your words and deeds. Not just the neighborly thing to do. It can have terrible consequences as this lady will now find out.

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YuleBeFineIPromise t1_jax484c wrote

> it’s very much an open and shut case.

Care to share some similar case law that backs up your assertion? Nothing that happened here fits the Harassment statute as defined by PA and the Ethnic Intimidation charge only sticks if the Harassment charge prevails. She'll likely plea out but it's not exactly clear she would lose if she were stupid enough to push it to trial.

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[deleted] t1_jaw55hu wrote

Yea no doubt. The court of public opinion will put her in an social prison. Have a great day

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ipresnel t1_javqdmi wrote

You're denied service when you say, F YOU. When you pull this bs even in Pensyvliantucky you go directly to jail

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[deleted] t1_javqggj wrote

Il bet everything I own she isn’t going to jail for words.

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ipresnel t1_jb23xy2 wrote

Get ready to give up $15 and your old couch buddy. It;s coming.

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[deleted] t1_jb2838z wrote

K buddy lol … go get ‘em… my little social justice prince

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[deleted] t1_javs826 wrote

Getting downvotes cause people crave toxic racism content and outrageous penalties for words and waste of government resources and public works to garner ratings. When will you realize this is the content that keep you from doing anything positive. Your frequency is what you frequently. This is low frequency content that you crave.

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