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artificialavocado t1_j7xu069 wrote
We would have had it like 50 years ago but our heroic job creators can’t come to a consensus. They hate paying for it but love having the leverage over us peons.
yoyoma125 t1_j7zmke7 wrote
In fairness…
The peons love voting against their own interests. I’ve heard so many people I would consider poor say ‘that’s socialism’ or ‘I don’t want to pay for some poor person’s health insurance’
Jacket73 t1_j7zo65t wrote
Reminds me of the convo I was privy to a few years back.
Person A: "Thank GOD for Trump and getting rid of that goddamn Obama care."
Person B: "Wait, what? Aren't you on Obama care?"
Person A: "DUH, NOOOO, I'm on the affordable care act insurance!"
Person B: Stunned silence.
Gump said "stupid is as stupid does" well I guess stupid is as stupid votes? Or something like that...shrug
yoyoma125 t1_j7zof1l wrote
Oh brother…
We need to invest in education too while we are at it.
FightingGasoline t1_j800zpq wrote
Childhood education, not colleges. They have their own scams already
yoyoma125 t1_j808ohs wrote
And we already have the top research universities in the world.
Addressing the runaway inflation with public university tuition would be a much more practical and beneficial approach.
I’m not sure a bunch of High School graduates would have split the atom in the 1940’s or got us to the moon within 50 years after the first flight.
ThePopeJones t1_j7zneca wrote
Sounds like my family's banter this last thanksgiving.
yoyoma125 t1_j7znmpu wrote
It’s essentially everyone’s family now that it’s become clear how easily influenced everyone is on social media. There is at least one…
We’ve already lost our country to lobbyist.
Rabbitdraws t1_j7zvehi wrote
True and this time we will be so brainwashed, that some ppl will be fighting over toilet paper while others will brag they can clean ass with leaves just as well.
Humanity_NotAFan t1_j7zvh02 wrote
>We’ve already lost our country to lobbyist. Citizens United.
yoyoma125 t1_j7zw7yb wrote
Repealing that is just a start
Xyncx t1_j7znk3t wrote
A tale as old as time. The Romans were pros.
Rheum42 t1_j80f0ao wrote
Yeah, my fellow Americans exhaust me
DJBeachCops t1_j7zsmbc wrote
In unfairness...
Temporary-Airport-80 t1_j7zz6jl wrote
If they don’t create any jobs, u will be unemployed and broke 🤣🤣🤣
artificialavocado t1_j807np0 wrote
Oh is that how it works? Thanks for letting me know.
JazzFan1998 t1_j7xq5x2 wrote
RIGHT! Let's all write our congressman and demand it ! Seriously!!
akhier t1_j7xw8y2 wrote
Good luck with that. Congress literally just days ago denounced socialism and this sort of thing is one of the prime examples of what they think of when they think of socialism.
gdex86 t1_j7xy66d wrote
Again not congress. Republicans in Congress.
akhier t1_j7y0qt0 wrote
If only. A majority of Democrats also voted for it.
idealzebra t1_j7y4gdu wrote
I want to say this is the stupidest goddamn thing I've ever seen Congress vote on but it just has so much competition.
Jacket73 t1_j7zpc8y wrote
Yeah, "they" have generations now of successfully tying socialism to a communist totalitarian dictatorship like socialism=North Korea, and then tying social programs to socialism. So, it has now basically come down to "You want free public schools for children?!?!" "Then you must want to live in North Korea you nutjob!"
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xqp2d wrote
they care about us, so they must certainly be working on it right now... right? i mean, it's important enough to lock yourselves in until you come up with a solution.
dogmomdrinkstea t1_j7z4x1p wrote
The cynic in me wants to laugh at "they care about us". I'm a queer, autistic woman with a functioning uterus. I know for sure some of them don't care if people like me are okay.
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BiggerBowls t1_j7zrq91 wrote
And this is why it is.
insofarincogneato t1_j80kag1 wrote
But it's a benefit for working for us!
Them, probably.
akhier t1_j80q5bp wrote
That is literally how it started from what I remember. Great depression and all that, so businesses needed some way to pay their workers without actually paying them and thus benefits like healthcare were put on the table.
[deleted] t1_j7wzdh3 wrote
Isn’t this union busting??
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xeod8 wrote
Unfair labor practice complaint against Temple gonna get filed in 3... 2...
hsavvy t1_j7xjv1y wrote
Apparently, since the striking workers aren’t actually working, Temple is able to withhold benefits? I also saw a claim that Temple isn’t subject to NLRB laws but I can’t find any further info or evidence of that right now.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xldis wrote
>striking workers aren’t actually working
They are grad students who refuse to allow Temple to use them as chattel. A different category under labor law, but still entitled to the full protection of labor laws which do not allow retaliation against organizing or other unfair labor practices.
hsavvy t1_j7xpvhl wrote
Just to be clear, I wasn’t trying to editorialize, just summarizing Temple’s argument, even though I agree it’s bullshit.
TransFattyAcid OP t1_j7zg9pg wrote
> Apparently, since the striking workers aren’t actually working, Temple is able to withhold benefits?
Typically, this only applies to benefits accrued through working. They're pulling all benefits, even tuition reimbursement which was already paid. IANAL, but several who've spoken on the issue say it's a legal difference.
hsavvy t1_j7zi81o wrote
I totally believe that, just reiterating what Temple spokespeople have stated as their legal basis.
TheUltimateSalesman t1_j7xp3gw wrote
> NLRB
There are a ton of links about universities, and if the group isn't in management, they are free to organize.
naughtyboy206 t1_j7zo34j wrote
If I remover right weren’t student athletes banned from unionizing?
TheUltimateSalesman t1_j813mis wrote
I don't know, but they're not employees
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xr2wi wrote
Temple is their own organization, with limited budget and priorities and goals. They should do whatever they want.
your Senator controls trillions of dollars and works for you. Those trillions get refreshed every single year. Your senator should be working on universal healthcare tonight. They should literally sit down and work on it today.
Instead, senators are whining about how Bezos is mistreating his employees. As if Bezos should give up all his wealth to give everyone healthcare for a year. But then he lost all his money, so it would only last one year.
hsavvy t1_j7xr85n wrote
No idea what the point of this rant was tbh
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xsbyv wrote
my point is that temple should do whatever the hell they want. just like bob's donuts should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.
why are people always getting angry at the wrong person? You had the people to blame. The ones that could have fixed this decades ago and chose not to fix it. In fact, if they really, really, really wanted to, they could fix it this month.
Nezgul t1_j7xvk6b wrote
>just like bob's donuts should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.
no the absolute fuck they should not. jesus christ, this kind of rhetoric is how we get back to having eight year olds in industrial factories.
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xw4el wrote
yes, because i was so talking about child labor.
i'm talking about being able to fire anyone you want, whenever you want, and not have to worry about whether the person you fired has enough insulin to last them.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xxi91 wrote
>because i was so talking about child labor.
Temple is using grad students as cheap labor, so you are almost on topic.
Yankiwi17273 t1_j7y7op1 wrote
You are actually making a very good case for government intervention here. As you are pointing out, in a totally free market system with an inherent monopoly (which GA positions often de facto become), it is 100% within the employer’s best interests to screw over the employee as much as they can.
But that is exactly why the government should be able to step in to even the power dynamics between employer and employee, especially during strikes, unionization, and contract negotiations.
Thank you for illustrating that point so vividly.
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7ycuwn wrote
but it's NOT in the employer's best interest to screw over the employees.... IF they have a genuine desire to keep their reputation so they can hire the best employees in the future.
it might be best interest in terms of SHORT TERM financial gain, which, too, is a problem.
forgetting about the free market, there is a real, visible problem: Young folks who can't get insulin really do drop dead every year.
Should government really be able to step in and save its dying young citizens? By just straight up buying them some insulin, without waiting for the paperwork or the insurance to kick in at a new job?
Yankiwi17273 t1_j7zy4fd wrote
Would you prefer people dying just because they don’t have the health insurance to by a horribly marked up drug?
Nezgul t1_j7xwe2s wrote
>yes, because i was so talking about child labor.
you said "whatever, whenever."
>i'm talking about being able to fire anyone you want, whenever you want, and not have to worry about whether the person you fired has enough insulin to last them.
are you reading what you're typing
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xwrji wrote
yeah, and you should read the context of this discussion, which is Insurance.
did you also believe that I was arguing that donut shop owners should be able to kill people and commit fraud and sell heroin as long as they are in their shop?
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xxlaj wrote
>yeah, and you should read the context of this discussion, which is Insurance.
>
>did you also believe that I was arguing that donut shop owners
Wait... topic is insurance but... donuts?
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xy3qp wrote
some donut shop owners get some type of benefits for their employees, too.
it's interesting you think that is weird. DONUTS!?
and that's my point. It IS weird that one might expect ANY EMPLOYER to have to deal with their employee's insulin supply, and that there can be a real consequence if, say, the donut shop closes for good.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7zg3jg wrote
Dollars to donuts says the donuts have nothing to do with Temple using grad students as chattel.
sirdrinksal0t t1_j7zomt3 wrote
You’re so close to understanding the issue here, yea Bob’s whatever the fuck shop should be able to fire whoever they want without having to worry about if they have enough insulin to live because health care should not be held over your head by your employer as leverage
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xxf9p wrote
>my point is
When the price of donuts goes up, eat more pie.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xxd4p wrote
Topic of thread is Temple. Not all that other garbage.
IamSauerKraut t1_j829hzb wrote
>Temple is their own organization, with limited budget and priorities and goals. They should do whatever they want.
They are an entity partially funded with tax dollars; therefore, not "their own organization."
lets_all_eat_chalk t1_j7z2bb0 wrote
And here I thought universities were left wing socialist inductrination centers.
SamShephardsMustache t1_j7wpl25 wrote
The good ol orphan crushing machine...
gdex86 t1_j7xylmm wrote
Like why?
Temple to my knowledge isn't a college that trades primarily on its domination in sports. So it's educational prestige is what keeps the doors open and money flowing. That is done by having prestige. To have that prestige they need to have these ground level educators working since no hot shot professor is going to do the scut work graduates do. So all they are telling future graduate students who might consider working there in the future is that end of the day if it comes to counting beans the university will fuck you over no regrets so why work there.
natesplace19010 t1_j7yhent wrote
If you are a graduate student at temple, you probably didn’t have a lot of other options… Temple is very underfunded compared with other universities.
pnedito t1_j7z7pjp wrote
I would venture that many Temple profs dont actually want the grad students doing scut work as the overhead to supervise said 'scut work' is more trouble than it's worth... which is why the striking grad students are out of line seeking a $32 per hour wage for part time work...
I support the strikers in theory, but the hourly rate demand is hyperbolic, and they need split the difference and settle out at $26.
Scatheli t1_j7z9h2t wrote
Temple grad students are making less than at any other school that is of equivalent rank (R1)- it’s absurd to expect people to live in Philly on 19k. And when they aren’t teaching classes they are doing other service to the university, aka research that the university gets credit for and gets published
Do you like advances in medical research? New drugs? They almost all start at these institutions in labs that employ these students
Individual_Bison1776 t1_j7zof7r wrote
Thats pretty much the standard PhD salary.
Scatheli t1_j7zphw8 wrote
It most certainly is not especially for biomedical science PhDs. I literally just did one. They are including tuition remission in their 40k number that Temple is touting on their website. They are giving 20k in actual take home money for their PhDs which is absurd. I made 32 by the time I finished and lived in a way cheaper city
deadliftothersup t1_j806wi2 wrote
19k is barely above what I made as a PhD student at UMaine a handful of years ago and it should go without saying that my cost of living was a hell of a lot less ($500 / room rent) than Philly.
Also, anyone saying your lab work, teaching responsibilities, and mentor work is part time are being pretty silly.
100nm t1_j83l4ee wrote
There are 168 hours in a week. Working 50-80 hours a week is only part of that time. /s
boringhistoryfan t1_j813nok wrote
It is nowhere close to the average. Colleges in cities with much lower COL offer much higher wages.
If you had said 22k or so was close to the average, that'd be correct. 19 is definitely underpaid. And offensively so for a major city. And post-Covid, the average has ticked up, though not as much as it should have.
BukkakeKing69 t1_j7zta3p wrote
Graduate researchers quite often put in 60 hour weeks and Temple pays a whopping $19.5k for this. I don't even know how that keeps someone off the streets.
The minimum wage was last raised in July 2009 at $7.25/hr. If you took a 40 hour work week and inflation adjusted it to today, it's almost $21k. Temple is an absolute joke.
jicket t1_j80qke7 wrote
I sUpPoRt ThE sTrIkErS iN ThEoRy
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xejxg wrote
Who knew that Temple could be such a prick place. Maybe Fetterman can weigh in on federal funding once he feels better. Or, maybe Shapiro can zero out their budget request until such time as they treat their grad students like humans instead of chattel.
MRichards18 t1_j7xkn1n wrote
Fetterman is in the hospital again.
Rebecca Rhynhart made a tweet about it; https://twitter.com/rebeccarhynhart/status/1623439024747868161?s=46&t=Tq-rGemjQ-NzBGUCVVLpeA
Hazel1928 t1_j7xr38a wrote
Alright, I promise I am not wishing bad health on John F. But I am so curious as to who Shapiro would appoint in the case JF had to resign.
Arguments for Giselle
- Appointing a spouse has been done before.
- She pretty much ran the campaign.
- Biden made that blooper when he said she would be a great lady in the senate.
Arguments against Giselle
- Shapiro might want the job himself (doubtful)
- There are people in state government who have been working away, paying their dues, Shapiro might think one of them should get it.
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IamSauerKraut t1_j7xlk2q wrote
Yesterday's news. He's been in the hospital for a couple of days. I do not know who Rhynhart is and I do not care.
MRichards18 t1_j7xnzhp wrote
She’s likely a front runner for mayor in the city that Temple resides, Philadelphia.
TheUltimateSalesman t1_j7xpcog wrote
What happened to Nutter?
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xwm2l wrote
He's not running.
TheUltimateSalesman t1_j7yz3bg wrote
Nothin' made me feel better than flying into Philly and seeing Nutters goofy mug at the bottom of the escalator smiling at me. II knew then, I had arrived.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xwwj1 wrote
Right. Front runner. Along with the other 49 candidates.
Aggressive_Ad5115 t1_j7xsm0v wrote
SourKraut is spicy today
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xx4at wrote
And you are... straight into nothingness.
Fitz2001 t1_j7xp8o8 wrote
She’s going to be Philadelphia’s next mayor
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xwyv6 wrote
Sure. And Krasner is gonna be tossed as the DA.
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xrzf1 wrote
If Temple are the pricks, then what were our past senators who controlled trillions of dollars that are refreshed each year?
what about the donut shop around my corner. They raised prices and it hurt me. Are they pricks too? Why can't they simply hire 1,000 more people tonight to help us with our medical problems?
Formlan t1_j7y7bf8 wrote
This is a very nuanced and intelligent argument. It isn't stupid at all.
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7yda0u wrote
go look at real medical bills. the argument doesn't need nuance or intelligence anymore. it's really simple: you don't fuck millions of people over while as a senator, you fly to canada or israel for affordable healthcare:
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/16/americans-medical-debt/
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xx8xu wrote
They raised prices on donuts? The bastards!
throw_away_899210 t1_j7xq23w wrote
wishing temple university admin nothing but the worst
dogmomdrinkstea t1_j7yduxy wrote
As a temple grad, I'm disgusted. Healthcare should be a right, not something to snatch away for striking.
throwwaway3123 t1_j7z86sk wrote
Healthcare is not a right. But I agree, it should not be used as a bargaining chip.
Wtf is with this push for everyone trying to get everything for free? We got enough lazy people unwilling to work and more free giveaways just encourages more of that. We should be talking about creating jobs to put people to work, not giving shit out for free to everyone, including those who don’t want to work.
dogmomdrinkstea t1_j7zaxxf wrote
Uh, no. No one deserves to die from lack of healthcare, regardless of whether or not they're working. It's inhumane. People like you are what's wrong with this country.
Old-Bat-7384 t1_j7zfieq wrote
You say it isn't a right until you're in a position where your insurance carrier drops you, regardless of your will to work.
sirdrinksal0t t1_j7zoco3 wrote
Your employer should absolutely not have control over whether or not you can afford healthcare or a medical emergency wtf are you talking about
throwwaway3123 t1_j81d60d wrote
Nothing is stopping you from purchasing med insurance privately. My parents were small business owners so they have to pay for medical out of pocket.
sirdrinksal0t t1_j82f9dg wrote
Do you know how much it costs for basic coverage privately?
throwwaway3123 t1_j8spdcs wrote
It’s expensive. What’s your point?
Your employer having influence over your healthcare options is YOUR choice because your employer is subsidizing some of the cost for you. Again, you are welcome to purchase your own insurance through private means if your priority is to have medical coverage that is not tied to your employer but that is your choice.
Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too. Not surprised by your stance of wanting shit for free
sirdrinksal0t t1_j8tenlc wrote
Well don’t you sound like a peach. The point is it’s prohibitively expensive through private insurance which is why people are dependent on employer sponsored healthcare. Did you grow up well off? Because you don’t sound like a person who’s ever had to worry about finances like this. And if you didn’t grow up well off then jesus learn some fucking empathy because all that your espousing here is for people to just fucking die if they can’t afford their medications or healthcare.
throwwaway3123 t1_j8tvegp wrote
So your top priority is saving money on health insurance or making sure your employer is not holding you hostage with health insurance? I understand both are important but those are not the options here.
You sound like a child complaining because he can’t get everything he wants. In an ideal situation, yes all this shit would be free and life would be grand but it’s not like that. There are consequences to giving out free shit blindly to everyone which you clearly do not understand.
There needs to balance so society doesn’t fall apart. What the hell happens to our grandkids if we start offering health insurance for free to everyone in this country? Where is your fucking empathy for them?
sirdrinksal0t t1_j8v0hnv wrote
Well you didn’t answer my question so I’ll take that as you saying “I’ve never actually had to deal with these problems and have had a relatively easy life so fuck everyone else”
zeizkal t1_j7zpjtc wrote
Healthcare should absolutely be a right, do honestly think that healthcare should be locked behind a paywall? Look at it from a practical business point of view if you have to. Healthier citizens means a longer living stronger workforce.
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EverybuddyToTheLimit t1_j7zx0ro wrote
1985 called, they want their shitty unfounded hot take back
throwwaway3123 t1_j81cp4x wrote
Yea because no one lied to steal from PPP.
It does not matter if it is 1985 or 2022. Lazy and unethical people will steal when there is a free shit.
106473 t1_j801y78 wrote
The labours of others in not your right.
EverybuddyToTheLimit t1_j8127rh wrote
Exactly, that's why we need to be opposed as a block against the rapacious and unchecked extraction of surplus value that the capitalists steal from us workers every minute of every day.
seraphimofthenight t1_j81lsay wrote
lmao wages haven't tracked with increased productivity over past 40 years, if it did min wage would be $30/hr, 60% of americans living paycheck to paycheck and working multiple jobs and apparently they're "too lazy to just work harder and pay for insurance." Either healthcare is paid for by taxes overwhelmingly paid for by middle and lower class or it gets baked into benefits for employers to stay competitive, nothing is free in this world and average honest to god working people are the ones paying for it either way with their labor!
Scrantonbornboy t1_j7xj1ui wrote
Wow now that’s fucked yo.
Edit: meant for that to say fucked up but autocorrect disagreed.
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gslavik t1_j7y4w9m wrote
One more reason why employer based healthcare is a silly idea.
Grumpicake t1_j7xg0ah wrote
Uh…
ReformedDeviant t1_j7xtoe2 wrote
Temple needs a rude awakening and I'd support any kind of direct action or civil disobedience aimed at them. What they are doing is monstorous and deserves a massive reckoning.
Mail540 t1_j7xtj19 wrote
I was looking at applying for a job at temple but this is definitely pretty concerning. This is illegal right? They told them this was in retaliation and didn’t do the normal thing and lie about the reason
BukkakeKing69 t1_j7zyz1l wrote
Can I ask why you'd bother applying to Temple? Unless you're in admin academia pays absolute garbage.
Old-Bat-7384 t1_j7zfm6h wrote
Fuck it, burn the place down. These folks just want fair pay and the university wants to put their health at risk.
NoChanceCW t1_j7znbhk wrote
Going after someone's health to fight something trivial like contract issues is pure evil. They should all quit and leave them hanging.
Alternative-Flan2869 t1_j7xw4ji wrote
This is legal. Administration did that to our (first-time) union strikers, who were forced onto picket lines after years of no contract and bad faith non-negotiation.
lift_day_in_history t1_j803dus wrote
If you disagree with these unjust retaliatory tactics, email provost@temple.edu; president@temple.edu; jason.wingard@temple.edu; gregory.mandel@temple.edu
CardiologistSolid663 t1_j7y0uan wrote
Boooo !!!!
BellyFullOfMochi t1_j819a4w wrote
Healthcare tied to your job is what stops you from standing up to fight for your rights.
jrc_80 t1_j7z7dxg wrote
You want fair wages and benefits?? Than DIE!!!!
gertgod t1_j802gef wrote
That’s kind of wild though, I work as a Grad Assistant in the St Louis area and I make like 15k a year without any health benefits… there are full time positions at my university that don’t even pay 32k a year.
PawelW007 t1_j7xx5y4 wrote
Apologies because I stay pretty neutral but….doesn’t this usually happen?
Like, all about striking but at this point this war…. Not defending the action itself but it makes sense. Walk out on me, I’ll hurt you.
DatEngineeringKid t1_j7zqpn1 wrote
No worries. I’m not sure what the legal situation is like, but the reason why strikers get some legal protection is to keep strikers from doing something drastic.
Look at it the other way around—if you were gonna go on strike and knew that it could cost you everything, there would be a much wider range of actions that you would be willing to engage in.
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WookieeSteakIsChewie t1_j80x6wb wrote
Cancel student athletes? What does that even mean in your head?
HarryPlopperOMG t1_j7zle49 wrote
Thats fucked up
OrganizationLower286 t1_j803akf wrote
Does Temple have an endowment? If so, any idea how much?
Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_j7zj7uh wrote
Makes sense.
BrowniesAndMilk1 t1_j7yw69w wrote
Lmaooooo time for the graduate workers to get a real job.
LIMITLESS-DICK-UPS t1_j7zx6vt wrote
bizarre comment
BrowniesAndMilk1 t1_j7zxzs1 wrote
Come here and tickle !!!!
markdzn t1_j7xmx45 wrote
Why anyone goes to Temple is surprising.
mazerati185 t1_j7xqxff wrote
Lol #2 most enrolled college in PA
saintofhate t1_j7y55bg wrote
From what I can remember from when I was looking into college, it's the cheapest in the city aside from the weird no name schools that have sketchy vibes.
TheUltimateSalesman t1_j7xpg3c wrote
Bill Cosby went to Temple.
Yen-sama t1_j7xrh6k wrote
All the more reason not to go
kormer t1_j7xfgnj wrote
Well they're learning something this week. The meaning of FAFO
wellarmedsheep t1_j7xholi wrote
There are so many aspects of your life that you only get to enjoy because striking workers literally died to get them.
Based on this comment its hard to see why you would deserve any of it.
drxdrg08 t1_j7x6pjf wrote
So if I Tweet that Fetterman ate a baby, then post a link to that Tweet, that makes it true?
Luke_Orlando t1_j7x7ft8 wrote
Could have just asked for a source lol
drxdrg08 t1_j7x9ttr wrote
There is no source you can provide because you can't "deactivate" health insurance.
The students that are striking are no longer employees, since they are not coming to work anymore. They have been notified twice in writing that not coming into work means they will be fired. Now they have been fired.
Were their paychecks also "deactivated"? They can continue under COBRA, that's the law, just like every other terminated employee.
Luke_Orlando t1_j7xav45 wrote
One absolutely can deactivate health insurance. That exact issue was the subject of a teacher strike I participated in four years ago.
Depending on the type of strike this is, they may be protected under the labor board's laws regarding strikes on unfair conditions:
"Such strikers can be neither discharged nor permanently replaced. When the strike ends, unfair labor practice strikers, absent serious misconduct on their part, are entitled to have their jobs back even if employees hired to do their work have to be discharged."
If this is the case, what Temple did is illegal.
There are many other conditions in which the workers are protected, this is just one way in which temple may have violated labor law in the blundering way they've handled this situation.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xezs8 wrote
>what Temple did is illegal.
The correct response. Temple should hire new counsel, too, imho.
drxdrg08 t1_j7xeqae wrote
> If this is the case, what Temple did is illegal.
You are right. Temple doesn't have an HR department or the legal department that would have cleared this. Now they are in deep trouble!
thesonofdarwin t1_j7xlohi wrote
You're right, large organizations never do illegal things or receive fines and judgments against them as a result. They have an HR and legal department! Petition the courts to just dismiss all workers claims against their employers if they have HR.
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IamSauerKraut t1_j7xetzn wrote
>The students that are striking are no longer employees
Not how labor law works.
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akhier t1_j7xgqd2 wrote
This is why healthcare should not be connected to your job.