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ho_merjpimpson t1_j6t6ptw wrote
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i mean, thats not really how it works with heating fuels. there is always competition. and if not, there are likely dozens of propane companies that would undercut them if their prices were that inflated and would be more than happy to convert your shit over to burn propane.
prices are high in the area because prices are high everywhere.
IamSauerKraut t1_j6u1baf wrote
>my natural gas bill
No, we are not discussing in general "heating fuels." Natural gas is pretty specific and it is piped by UGI thru pipes placed by UGI to houses occupied by UGI customers in a relatively large area serviced exclusively by UGI.
ho_merjpimpson t1_j6u3qfn wrote
dude, you are flat out wrong. whenever there is not competition for a utility (including natural gas), the rates are literally regulated by the government and they have to request price hikes. This includes UGI.
the idea that they are inflating the prices because there is no competition is straight up wrong. argue it all you want, it wont make you right. i cant spell it out any clearer.
IamSauerKraut t1_j6u5o8x wrote
Ah, so, you've dropped your propane angle? A fuel not regulated by the PUC, btw.
ho_merjpimpson t1_j6ueq72 wrote
>Ah, so, you've dropped your propane angle?
Ah, so, you've dropped your monopoly angle?
the propane angle was another way to explain why your monopoly statement was silly. if nat gas was inflated to any meaningful degree there are a ton of propane companies that would be a direct competition to natural gas customers. you seemed to not understand that, so i went elsewhere to show you another reason you were wrong.
>regulated by the PUC
so what you are saying is that propane is not regulated by the puc, but natural gas is? thanks for proving my point. propane is not regulated because there is no monopoly on it. there is a fierce competition that keeps the price low.
natural gas is regulated. so your comment about it being a monopoly that allows inflated gas prices... while reddit upvote bait... is simply wrong.
IamSauerKraut t1_j6uh809 wrote
>you've dropped your monopoly angle?
Was that a word I used?
oh
ho_merjpimpson t1_j6uiz47 wrote
keep pretending that ugi is inflating prices because they have a mono... ohh, im sorry. a lock on gas because they are the only person that can provide it thus are able to inflate their prices.
again. for the dim witted....
ugi cannot raise their prices despite having a mono... oops. a lock on their product, because it is a heavily regulated product.
you are wrong. have a nice day.
IamSauerKraut t1_j6ukazg wrote
>keep pretending that ugi is inflating prices because they have a mono
2 things in your sentence which I did not state. Why be such a dishonest dingo? Is UGI paying you to spam the sub with your garbage?
ho_merjpimpson t1_j6unnuc wrote
> UGI pretty much has a lock on natural gas in this area.
=they pretty much have a monopoly
>No competition to temper the prices.
= they can inflate the prices
>2 things in your sentence which I did not state.
you might not know that you are stating these things, but you are.
>Is UGI paying you to spam the sub with your garbage?
you got me. hail corporate.
IamSauerKraut t1_j6wut8n wrote
Unable to counter my specific comments, you insert gratuitous commentary that supports only your narrative. I need not temper my comments just because you want me to state something different. Nor does what your latest comment subjugate my point to your narrative.
Fact: the lack of competition places UGI in a position where they, and they alone, can determine the market price. Is it a monopoly? Technically, no. You do not deny that point - the lack of competition - when you describe the propane situation.
IamSauerKraut t1_j6uhbt2 wrote
>propane is not regulated because there is no monopoly on i
Is that why propane is not regulated?
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